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Originally Posted by tundrahq
Won't work - can't work - impossible to work.
It's called "the law of conservation of energy".
Energy in can not equal more than energy out. Think of it this way:
1) You break water down into hydrogen and oxygen using power from your car's electrical system. This is the Energy In stage.
2) You recombine the Hydrogen and Oxygen in the engine compartment. This is the Energy Out stage.
Whatever you put in, that's the most you can get out.
There is a slight cooling benefit from pumping hydrogen into the cylinder, but it's pretty small.
If you don't like my physics explanation (which is 100% correct btw), think of it this way. If it really was as simple as adding a few hundred dollars worth of crap to your truck and gaining 2mpg, why wouldn't Toyota being doing it at the factory? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK.
Read this:
SCAM ALERT - Adding Hydrogen To Your Gas WON’T Save You Money | Accurate Auto Advice
That's an even better explanation. |
sorry, but you are only half right, or half wrong, whatever you want to call it. The physics part is correct, the laws of conservation of energy cannot be broken (excluding subatomic physics of course). the way that this system (HHO) can and will work is only if the energy used to create the gas is from a source OTHER THAN the source of the car's engine power. This means running the device off of the alternator will not work, which is your originale xplanation. However... if one were to charge a separate battery via regenerative braking, where the vehicle's engine is not charging the battery but the slowing motion is converted to an electrical charge IS charging it, then you have collected otherwise-wasted energy, which some will call "created free" energy (energy is not being created, just not wasted). Another source of this reclaimed energy can be a peltier junction that charges the battery. A peltier junction creates an electrical charge by the flow of electrons due to temperature differentials, which could be harnessed into the secondary battery to run the HHO converter.
it IS possible to use HHO to make power, but not as it is currently being done, I agree. Oh, and those that want to use batteries to run the system need to remember that the batteries need to get their charge from somewhere, and that there are inherent losses in that process as well.