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Originally Posted by gary_william
sorry, but you are only half right, or half wrong, whatever you want to call it. The physics part is correct, the laws of conservation of energy cannot be broken (excluding subatomic physics of course). the way that this system (HHO) can and will work is only if the energy used to create the gas is from a source OTHER THAN the source of the car's engine power. This means running the device off of the alternator will not work, which is your original explanation. However... if one were to charge a separate battery via regenerative braking, where the vehicle's engine is not charging the battery but the slowing motion is converted to an electrical charge IS charging it, then you have collected otherwise-wasted energy, which some will call "created free" energy (energy is not being created, just not wasted). Another source of this reclaimed energy can be a peltier junction that charges the battery. A peltier junction creates an electrical charge by the flow of electrons due to temperature differentials, which could be harnessed into the secondary battery to run the HHO converter.
it IS possible to use HHO to make power, but not as it is currently being done, I agree. Oh, and those that want to use batteries to run the system need to remember that the batteries need to get their charge from somewhere, and that there are inherent losses in that process as well.
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Well you've got me there!
If someone is using "found" power - like regenerative braking - then this system has some promise.
I'm thinking that it can't be too much of a benefit. I still believe that the automakers would be falling all over themselves to find a one or two mpg benefit. If this system is as cheap as everyone claims it is - and I realize it probably isn't - than it would be standard equipment on a new truck.
People need to understand - Dodge, GM, and Ford are losing billions of dollars every year. Spending an extra $200 on every truck and SUV to improve fuel economy be even 10% makes sense. It might boost sales, and considering just how dire it is for a lot of the manufacturers right now, they'll do anything (see "employee pricing" and 0% for 72 months).
Good point - I stand corrected.