Yeah, I know, all of those soccer moms probably do not want to hear or smell a diesel. But the bottom line is that diesels are getting better and better and they last a lot longer. Toyota sells most of its trucks with diesels in other countries, and I'm sure the Touareg's diesel is going to open a lot of new eyes. Particularly when it smokes most hot rods and rice rockets off the line. If they don't introduce a diesel, what are Toyota's plans to keep up with the new Durango, Armada, etc?
Besides, diesel fuel in Europe is way cleaner than diesel fuel in North America. Until the US oil companies get their act together, diesel will not be as popular as it is in other countries.
Besides, diesel fuel in Europe is way cleaner than diesel fuel in North America. Until the US oil companies get their act together, diesel will not be as popular as it is in other countries.
As a casual observer of this issue, I believe there may be some merit to the understanding that the US trucking (and perhaps the railroad) industry does not want to pay the higher fuel cost involved in the refining of cleaner Diesel. Thus the resistance is reflected in regulation favorable to the commercial user, which by the way has few emmission constraints.
....that the US trucking (and perhaps the railroad) industry does not want to pay the higher fuel cost involved in the refining of cleaner Diesel. Thus the resistance is reflected in regulation favorable to the commercial user, which by the way has few emmission constraints.
Agree.
I might add that sulfur is a lubricant for injector also increase energy content.
I might add that sulfur is a lubricant for injector also increase energy content.
In both the US and Europe, Sulfur concentrations are being regulated downward in diesel just like gasoline... In Europe, with growing demand for diesel powered cars, the region is now very long gasoline which is then exported to the US to keep our SUV's happy.
I hope they have serious plans to introduce a 5.5L motor in the next few years. A 3/4 ton model would be great! A 6.0L diesel?? Something is needed to get their largest SUV tow rating up higher than the 4Runner.
I agree with Brian 100%. Towing on the Seq is really low for its size. I would trade if they did a small diesel or even a more powerful gas model even though my 03 only has 27000 miles. I miss that honking motor of the expedition
I agree with Brian 100%. Towing on the Seq is really low for its size. I would trade if they did a small diesel or even a more powerful gas model even though my 03 only has 27000 miles. I miss that honking motor of the expedition
Don
Toyota is more conservative, or realistic, with their tow ratings than other manufacturers. The "honking motor" of the Expedition is pretty lame actually, the Sequoia will out accelerate it.
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Europe has very strict pollution laws, but they go in a different direction from U.S. laws. Clean diesels will meet future European laws, but in the U.S., with different laws, particulate traps and other add-on devices would be needed. That pretty well eliminates diesels from the U.S. passenger car market in the next few years. (Not existing diesels, just the models in that future year.)
Sulfur itself is not a lubricant. When sulfur is removed from diesel fuel by the most economical refining method certain aromatic compounds are also removed, and these are the components that lube the fuel system. Refineries add lubricity additives to their low sulfur diesel fuel to make up for this.
Agreed, European diesel fuel is much cleaner than U.S. diesel fuel. U.S. refineries do not want to put the investment into different refining equipment nor do major fuel users want to pay extra for this.
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From what I understand the EPA in the states (Environment Canada up North) has already laws in place stating that diesel fuel sulpher etc. has to be lowered by this Oct. In fact I was talking with a buddy of mine who specializes in a variety of Fuel pumping devices and says that any of the diesel fuel he has work with (up to his elbows) over the past few months was infact the new lower sulpher variety. Apparently another benifit is that it does not burn the skin as much! With the clean fuel now in North America, I think you will see some exciting new diesel powerplants in a variety of sizes imported or developed locally over the next few years, Mercedes is apparently leading the way in EU. The dirty fuel is waht has been holding us back, the new motors won't run on it.
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I actually looked into buying a Toureg V10 TDI. Price really wasn't an issue since I was going to pay cash for the vehicle, no lien. I test drove both vehicles and the TDI really wasn't too much faster than the Sequoia, plus the Sequoia really felt more roomier than the Toureg. And a whole hell of alot cheaper, the Toureg's started at $70,000. I needed up paying $45,500 drive out on a 2006 Limited 4x4 with DVD, leather, side airbags, etc. So I think that I did pretty good.
When Toyota gas engines are so good, why oh why would anyone want a diesel? I owned one diesel car, a Mercedes and that cured me of diesels for life. Everything is more expensive and more trouble on a diesel. And with diesel fuel 25% MORE expensive than Gasoline and diesel stations few and FAR between, I don't understand why anyone would ever choose a diesel over gas. If you like to tinker, and your car is your hobby, well then a diesel might be fun for you but for most drivers, a gas engine is the better choice.
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