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1Gen-SequoiaGeneral discussion forum for the first generation 2001 to 2007 Toyota Sequoia.
This is a discussion thread titled "Improving gas milage advice", within the 1Gen-Sequoia forum, part of the SUV Forums category.
I have an 03 Sequoia. I am not interested in improving horsepower. However I would not like to loose any. I do not care about the sound something makes. In fact I like having a quiet car. All I want to do are mods that are relatively inexepsive $300 or less for each mod that will improve gas milage.
If you spend $250 and improve gas milage by 2 MPG, you will make up the cost in about 2K miles.
Is there anything out there that does this.
I have been reading a lot of posts and a lot of people say they do not really notice any gas milage gains.
I have an 03 Sequoia. I am not interested in improving horsepower. However I would not like to loose any. I do not care about the sound something makes. In fact I like having a quiet car. All I want to do are mods that are relatively inexepsive $300 or less for each mod that will improve gas milage.
If you spend $250 and improve gas milage by 2 MPG, you will make up the cost in about 2K miles.
Is there anything out there that does this.
I have been reading a lot of posts and a lot of people say they do not really notice any gas milage gains.
Poke around the threads a little more. This has been covered in great detail.
There ARE things you can do to get 2mpg improvements.
RAPS (Ram Air Performance System) is supposed to give an improvement in gas mileage. I just ordered one for my 03 Sequoia off of this forum ($99.00 plus $3 shipping), and as soon as I get it I will be doing some MPG tests and will post results.
I figure for $100 it is a decent way to try to get a few more MPG and hopefully a few more HP.
Poke around the threads a little more. This has been covered in great detail.
There ARE things you can do to get 2mpg improvements.
I HAVE read a lot of the threads. most people talk about gain in HP and that they are "modest". Most people say its not scientific and more "I can jsut feel it" Most of the threads talk about loss of horsepower in lower RPM's ranges. I am really just concerned with Gas Milage
When the threads talk about gas milage, no one really says anything concrete.
Gas milage should be easy to measure as most Sequoias have that overhead computer that tells them their average MPG.
Okay, I need to vent a little...This is in no way pointed to anyone on this board, but to society as a whole.
This whole gas mileage thing is about to drive me insane! People go and buy a huge SUV or truck to haul their family around and then proceed to complain about bad gas mileage. Listen, you get a choice...either you can have a lot of power to haul big loads or you can have a little power and get great gas mileage, but not both. In order to get more power, you have to consume more gas. It is crazy that people buy a Ford Excursion, load the 2 kids, a dog, all their luggage, and then hook on their 25' boat and then are upset when they don't get 30 MPG?!?!? I have no problems with SUV's and large trucks, as I have owned several of each, but just don't complain when you have to stop at the pump more often than a Honda Civic.
Sorry, had to rant..
Diamond Dog, have you looked into one of those Tornado fuel saver things? I have heard that they help a little.
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2001 Tundra Limited
2005 Ford Excursion Limited PSD
1996 Ford F-250...Runnin' on Veggie Oil
1946 John Deere A
MODS: Hellwig, Custom Duals w/ Flowmaster 40 Series and Dr. Gas X-pipe, Daystar Bushings, Cornfed 2" Front Spacers, TRD AAL, K&N FIPK, 16x8 Weld Outbacks, 285/75R16 Yokohama Geolandar's, Access Cover, BedRug, Putco Bed Rails, PP Bull Bar, WeatherFlectors, Prodigy Brake Controller, Brown Bread Sound Deadener, '05 Taillights, AMSOIL ATF
Diamond Dog, have you looked into one of those Tornado fuel saver things? I have heard that they help a little.
Any fuels savings with the Tornado/Spiralmax/whatever are purely coincidental at best. Since those things hit the marked a few years ago, there have been several studies done as well as many articles by automotive engineers and mechanics which debunk their effectiveness. If anything, they have been known to be counterproductive depending on the design of the intake.
Another side effect is the quality of the little device. There was one report I read from a Z28 board a year ago where the owner had installed a Tornado/Spiralmax doohickey and it shed one of the little vanes which was then sucked into his engine He was not a happy camper.
People go and buy a huge SUV or truck to haul their family around and then proceed to complain about bad gas mileage.
I didn't hear anyone complain
I understand that when people buy, they don't take into account that gas prices won't stay at 1.48/gal. When gas gets over $2.00/gal, then people start to look at ways to reduce that expense. Seems normal to me.
To the original poster: I can't find the thread that covered it in detail, but things to look at are common sense.
-nonagressive tire tread
-monitor tire pressure
-keep care well tuned
-keep drive train well lubed
-drive with a light foot
-pay attention to your gas milage (by hand, ignore the computer) and use fuels that you find give you better milage.
If you do this, depending on what you're currently doing "wrong", you can bump things up a few mpg easily.
When gas gets over $2.00/gal, then people start to look at ways to reduce that expense.
$2.00/gallon, yeah it is more than I WANT to pay, but you do have a choice. Ride a pedal bike, motorcycle, walk, run, carpool etc.
I find it funny that people pay $1-$2 for a bottle of water at the gas station but then complain how expensive gas is. That bottle of water equals around $11-$22/gallon. How about beer, even if you find a case of beer on sale for $9.99, that still equals $4.44/gallon. 12oz bottled beer after Happy Hour $2.50/bottle, equals almost $27.00/gallon. A 20oz bottle of pop at the gas station is usually around $1.19 plus tax, that is over $8/gallon. Check milk prices lately?
The price of gas is what it is, it doesn't do any good to complain about it and in my opinion, it makes you look stupid when you pay for it and complain at the same time buying that bottle of water or pop.
Basic maintenance will get you the best mileage. Oil changes, air filter, tire pressure, reduce unnecessary weight, don't speed, don't brake hard, don't accelerate hard etc.
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1996 T100, 177,000 and counting
Easy solution is... take out the passenger seats and any object that weighs more than a pound. Like Hockey says... buy a big car live with the consequences of using more gas...
I find it funny that people pay $1-$2 for a bottle of water at the gas station but then complain how expensive gas is.
Well again, the original poster wasn't "complaining" (as I read it)
Consider this, I think the issue is the incremental costs in things.
Yes, milk does cost more than gasoline, but we generally don't consume 30 gallons of milk a week. If milk prices jumped .50, your weekly increase in cost for your "normal" lifestyle is .50/week. If gas goes up .50, your weekly cost goes up by $15. My guess is that some people lust after the truck, buy it, then realize they didn't consider the impacts that rising gas prices would have on them.
Sure, it doesn't make sense to complain about gas prices. But I think it makes perfect sense to try to eliminate 10% waste if you can do it easily.
Of course, if having great gas milage was the #1 concern when buying this truck, something is wrong...
I'm not saying he was complaining, I was giving my observation of our society as a whole now days.
"I know its a Suburban, but is there anything I can buy to help it get 30 mpg?", just seems a little backwards to me? AKA..you can't make a Cadillac out of a Yugo.
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"If your not obsessing about something, you're probably not into it enough." - Chris Thile
2001 Tundra Limited
2005 Ford Excursion Limited PSD
1996 Ford F-250...Runnin' on Veggie Oil
1946 John Deere A
MODS: Hellwig, Custom Duals w/ Flowmaster 40 Series and Dr. Gas X-pipe, Daystar Bushings, Cornfed 2" Front Spacers, TRD AAL, K&N FIPK, 16x8 Weld Outbacks, 285/75R16 Yokohama Geolandar's, Access Cover, BedRug, Putco Bed Rails, PP Bull Bar, WeatherFlectors, Prodigy Brake Controller, Brown Bread Sound Deadener, '05 Taillights, AMSOIL ATF
I'm not saying he was complaining, I was giving my observation of our society as a whole now days.
My point also. I see it daily, but was by no means saying the poster was complaining.
Sure they may have feel in love with the vehicle and didn't think about the big picture, BUT, they did look at the sticker price and understood that. Funny thing is, the largest font on the sticker is the Government Required MPG numbers. They over looked that?
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1996 T100, 177,000 and counting
I have an 03 Sequoia. I am not interested in improving horsepower. However I would not like to loose any. I do not care about the sound something makes. In fact I like having a quiet car. All I want to do are mods that are relatively inexepsive $300 or less for each mod that will improve gas milage.
If you spend $250 and improve gas milage by 2 MPG, you will make up the cost in about 2K miles.
Is there anything out there that does this.
I have been reading a lot of posts and a lot of people say they do not really notice any gas milage gains.
Ok guys...lets all settle down. I feel like Rodney King right now. "can we all just get along". I am totally joking right now...so please don't take it any other way.
I bought a large gas guzzling SUV that everyone in the world despises Americans for buying. I was well aware of the MPG ratings. I know how much gas costs. Even if I don't save any miles, I will still drive this car and enjoy it.
But if there is any easy thing to do (aside from maintaining your car, inflating the tires correctly, etc) that is not too expensive to get the MOST out of the car. Then why not ask about it.
I mean, I probably could spend 100k and put some sort of electric hybrid motor in this and really save gas. But thats not the point of this thread.
Most of the threads that talk about an easy gain in performance are air intake systems. But most of the threads talk about HP or making the car sound a different way (more throaty). I am only concerned with the gas milage aspect and other people must be too as all the intake manufacturers advertise the increased mileage. I am just asking about some real world experience as it seems like its a lot easier to measure MPG gains vs HP gains, yet most of the threads talk about those other things.
I'll try and loose some weight too. That way the Sequoia will be more efficent as the Big *** factor will be reduced!
Improving gas milage advice
Venting....
He was not a happy camper.
AKA..you can't make a Cadillac out of a Yugo.
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