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Hi All,

I know I have a Sequoia and I don't expect great gas mileage, but, has anyone seen an improvement in gas mileage after installing one?

They claim superior cleaning, if the mileage improvement is true, it would tip the scale for me.

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I didn't keep track of any mileage increase, but I did not a definite (if very slight) SOP (seat of pants) increase in throttle responsiveness.
I assume most everyone knows that the easiest mileage improver is to cut off the A/C compressor whenever you can - it's worth 1-2 on the average.
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You opened a can of worms with that question. There are two groups on here...those that love them and those that hate them.

I personally run them on all my cars. I too noticed an increase in throttle responsiveness, but at the same time wouldn't say it made it faster, with no increase in MPG. I enjoy it because I can clean it. It made a significant difference in my Land Cruiser and my wifes Solara. It is really car dependent.

The biggest rant you will hear about them is that they clog up the MAF and throttle body. I clean my MAF and throttle body every oil change (7500 miles) while the oil is draining. Takes 10 minutes total, and should be done anyways. I don't notice my MAF or TB being any dirtier than before I got the K&N, but I'm anal, so I do it anyways.

I recommend getting on just for the cost savings.
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Hi All,

I know I have a Sequoia and I don't expect great gas mileage, but, has anyone seen an improvement in gas mileage after installing one?

They claim superior cleaning, if the mileage improvement is true, it would tip the scale for me.

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Stay with oem Toyota filter.

Yes, you may notice slight more power/torque if it is brand new and properly (meaning lightly!) oiled. If you over oil, it can transfer to the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor and cause it to give false readings to the computer which will reduce gas mileage. I also found that the K&N filters quickly loose their efficiency and I ended up cleaning/re-oiling mine about every 5K miles (pain in the a$$). And I'm not convinced that they actually kept the engine any cleaner than using a stock filter.

Headers and catback exhaust can boost your hp and torque but from the data I've seen, do little to help on gas mileage. There isn't much you can do to these engines to increase your mpg except to stay light on the accelerator or trade it in for a Tercel.

just my 2¢'s worth.
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You'll get a few more HP and a tiny bit better mpg but you will definitely get more dirt in your engine and possibly be damaging the MAF, etc.

To me it's not worth it. I want my Sequoia to last forever even if I spend a few more pennies on gas and don't win every drag race.
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You'll get a few more HP and a tiny bit better mpg but you will definitely get more dirt in your engine and possibly be damaging the MAF, etc.

To me it's not worth it. I want my Sequoia to last forever even if I spend a few more pennies on gas and don't win every drag race.
please provide any evidence that it increases power and helps economy. It does neither. In fact, I've got lots of data that shows it hurts power and economy.
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I don't think so. From the oil samples that I've seen they allow more dirt into your engine...
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The KN filters in my experiences allow much more contanimants into your engine than almost any other filter. You wont find me putting another one in one of my vehicles. Made that mistake once already . Personally after seeing a demonstration of filters I am going to swap out my TRD filter for a True Flow filter .
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please provide any evidence that it increases power and helps economy. It does neither. In fact, I've got lots of data that shows it hurts power and economy.
Why bother. I've decided against it and recommended against it.
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please provide any evidence that it increases power and helps economy. It does neither. In fact, I've got lots of data that shows it hurts power and economy.
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what? That I've lost whole seconds on 1/4 mile times with just the change from stock airbox to aftermarket intake...
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If you wanted better gas mileage, then why did you buy the Sequoia? There is no way you are going to improve the gas mileage of this big hog, but there are some things that you can do to keep it from getting worse. Stick to the basics by keeping the tires properly inflated and rotate/balance them every 5K miles, even if they look like they don't need it. Get the alignment checked every six months and adjusted if needed. Get you car serviced regularly and switch to synthetic oil, if you haven't done so already.
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what? That I've lost whole seconds on 1/4 mile times with just the change from stock airbox to aftermarket intake...
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You said aftermarket intake? That I believe, but I think we are talking about just the filter here.
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