07' Instrument Cluster Swap

[toyotabiz]

Hi All,

Was wondering if anyone had tried, or know, if I can put the 2007' instrument cluster into a 03'. Love the way the newer instrument cluster looks compared to the 03'.

Does anyone know if the mileage is preprogammed into the cluster board, or can you swap out the cluster face and not effect the mileage?

Thanks
Biz

[Johnnny Rock]

Originally Posted by toyotabiz

Hi All,

Was wondering if anyone had tried, or know, if I can put the 2007' instrument cluster into a 03'. Love the way the newer instrument cluster looks compared to the 03'.

Does anyone know if the mileage is preprogammed into the cluster board, or can you swap out the cluster face and not effect the mileage?

Thanks
Biz

If you get a NEW Cluster Board from the dealer your miles will start at "0".

BUT, I was told that even though it starts of at "0" with a new board there is a way to check how many miles are on the truck another way. I forget how though. Johnnny

[dominicancake]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but It is my undertanding that the miles on the odometer are stored in the BCM (body control module) this is also where the vin and other info is stored. the instrument cluster is used only for the display of the info.

[toyotabiz]

Well, I work for a Lexus dealership and on the Lexus model cars the mileage is stored and displayed on the cluster as well as the ECU. You can put a new cluster in showing 0 miles, but the main ECU will always store the true miles.

On certain Lexus models the instrument cluster has to be programmed with the actual miles. Lexus will not sell a cluster with 0 miles, we have to special order them from the manufacturer with the miles pre-programmed.

On certain older Lexus models the cluster is separate from the mileage display. On those cars you can swap out the cluster, the mileage is its own little ECU display, separate from the cluster.

I was hoping on our trucks the same is true where you can swap out the cluster without effecting the mileage. Meaning, hopefully the mileage display is separte from the main cluster board. I have not opened up the cluster yet, but from looking at the cluster it seems the mileage display is part of the instrument cluster, and cluster will have to be programmed to match mileage.

I also wonder if the electrical connections will work from the 03' to the 06'. Not sure what is different on the newer model clusters compared to the old ones. I know the newer clusters have the rear ride height control display, which was not available in 03'. I hope that difference does not mean the electrical connections are totally different.

Thanks

[Johnnny Rock]

I was told by my friend that works for the parts department at a Toyota dealer that if you put in a new (cluster) the miles will start at "0". But the true miles are stored in the what ever you guys called it. lol.....If you want to put the correct miles on the new cluster it has to be programmed. I was told this info back in "2002" when I got my Tundra. I don't know if things have changed since then. Johnnny

[toyotabiz]

I pulled up electrical diagrams from the 03' and 07' instrument cluster. Looks like the wire connectors are totally different. Although most of the pinouts are the same, the connectors are totally different.

So much for that idea!!!

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by toyotabiz

I pulled up electrical diagrams from the 03' and 07' instrument cluster. Looks like the wire connectors are totally different. Although most of the pinouts are the same, the connectors are totally different.

So much for that idea!!!

That really sucks because the new Sequioa instrument panel is really nice.