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    Any recomendations on when to change the anti freeze in my 02 tundra?
    How about the best brand to use.

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    Default Re: Antifreeze change??

    i wrote a response to this and noticed it wasnt helpful because i dont know what kind of brand my shop uses it just comes out of the ceiling :-/ sorry

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    TOYOTA RED is the best you can get
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    First of all you should never mix antifreeze types i.e. the red Toyota type, typical green antifreeze or the orange GM Dex cool. Intermixing can cause reactions in some cases
    ( not talking explosions here, but possibilites of gelling, reduced corrosion resistance, or other properties ). Unless you are able to fully flush out a system, residues can remain. I have always found the OE stuff just as cheap as a good aftermarket brand. I change mine at around 50,000, do a complete drain, ( use side of block fitting, bottom of rad drain with rad cap off ) refill with water, run the engine until hot, shut off and let cool 20 min. then fully drain water and put antifreeze mix in. The water does a good enough flush, unless you notice alot of corrosion in the core as seen from the rad cap area ( I never have in 200,000, which is another reason I stick with the OE stuff, works good for me. ) Always remember to burp the system on the final fill, turn heater controls to hot, leave the cap off while you run the engine, you will see the antifreeze flow when the themostat opens. Running it this way for 10 minutes will burp most of the air from the system. Any residual air will slowly come out over the next few days, just watch and keep your resevoir filled properly. (note: during the burping, you will need to keep the level almost full so the engine temp sensor will be covered and read properly as this controls your fast idle. TIP: Pressing a funnel into the filler neck will keep the level full while not leaking all over the place, gives room for expansion while the air bubbels out, some parts stores sell a special funnel for this.)

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    Its time to change. The original red coolant was due every 2-3 years. IIRC, the pink is every 5 years. The pink is more expensive because it is prediluted so you would have to buy about 3 gallons. As you can tell, I like the OE coolant. I have been using the red. The japanese don't like the silicates in their vehicles, so if you were to go aftermarket, a good HOAT coolant like Zerex G-05 is a good low silicate formula. Avoid the Dexcool and clones.

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    Yup just go down to your local dealership and pick up a couple of gallons of Toyota Red and then buy a couple of gallons of distilled water. Drain the radiator petcock and both engine petcocks on either side of the block. Fill with a good 50/50 mix and like said above check the radiator a few minutes after running the engine and days after to burp all the air. Do this though when things have cooled off though!

    I'm doing this flush myself on Saturday and I am also replacing the thermostat too for good measure. I do this every two years to keep the coolant and anti-corrosion properties at peak. Toyota Red is $13 a gallon here though but oh well for a two year cycle it's well worth it.
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    They have red ready mix at the dealer. The red should last 5 years. On my 2003 I drained the radiator only and refilled it around 45K-50K. When you change your timing belt than drain all of it out and you are good for another 4-5 years.
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    Default Re: Antifreeze change??

    I removed the thermostat, and flushed the whole system, used advance auto parts house brand, which is the same stuff Prestone, rated for 150k mile 5 years, problem is it's not red but Yellow, I'm OK with it.

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    The Toyota stuff is compatible with your Prestone and similar ethyl glycol. You do not want to mix with the DexCool, which is an ACDelco product designed as a 5yr/100,000 mile product (it's not very good).

    Drain and fill using 50/50 coolant and distilled water. I do mine every two years. Overkill perhaps, but it's cheap and easy maintenance.

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    $26/gallon for red at my local dealer! That sounds crazy...can anyone suggest something cheaper? I'm at 12075 zip. Thanks!
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    $26 for the concentrated A/F, you only need 2 gallons of that stuff and 2 more gallons of distilled water.


    The Toyota dealer in Kingston (Prestige) is less expensive than other dealers around, for example they sell tranny fluid for $5.99, everyone else sells them $8+
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    For you guys who are doing the change yourselves, where do you dispose of the old coolant?
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    Default Re: Antifreeze change??

    Toyota Red (which I use) is good for 30K miles.
    Toyota Pink is good for 90K miles.

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    Zerex Asian at Napa and various autoparts stores is what I recommend. Its equivalent to Toyota Pink. Its already 50:50 and $12 a gallon.
    Valvoline.com > Products > Zerex > Antifreeze Zerex > Zerex® Asian Vehicle Antifreeze / Coolant

    Another equivalent one, available 50:50 and full strength is Peak Global:
    PEAK Global LifeTime

    Don't use any flush chemicals or water-only shenanigans as you'll never get the final ratio correct. And, water will leave behind all its impurities. Simply drain/refill the radiator and overflow bottle and repeat every 1-2yrs or 15k-30k, regardless of the overly optimistic bottle or manual recommendations.

    I haven't found that the Pink coolant lasts for 90k. Toyota pink is excellent but no way is it good for 90k. And, the number of failed water pumps that I've seen with 70k-100k miles is all the proof that I need.

    If mixing your own coolant, always use distilled or deionized water.
    Pink one brand of antifreeze and stick with it. Don't jump around to the latest internet coolant fad.

    The only issue I have with Toyota Pink(premixed) and Red(full strength) is the dealer mark up.

    The reason that the Red full strength has an earlier maintenance schedule than Pink is that automaker has to assume that schmucks will use tap or well water when mixing the red to spec.

    Call your state/town environment or waste management. They should be able to give you a antifreeze recycle list. Some people simply evaporate it. Check with independent garages/shops as they might have a recycling tank.
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    I'd be very careful about removing the engine block drain plugs. Your from New Jersey and if you haven't done it regularly, I'd avoid that route altogether. Mine froze to the block due to the dissimilar metals when I tried to drain it at 60K. Broke one off, but luckily, it didn't budge the thread or leak. Very expensive to replace.

    Maybe, I just had a defective fitting, but I would't want to go through it again. Most of the shops in my area don't even touch the engine block drain plugs.
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