I am in the process of grinding off the rust on the underside of my 04 tundra (there is a lot!!) and coating the frame... would this affect my chances at a future recall????
I know that calcium chloride sh!t they drop on the roads when it snows eats the hell out of undercarriages. My buddy is a maintenance manager at VDOT and he's showed similar damage to their dump trucks that drop the stuff. It was as if you parked it in salt water for a year with the same flaking rust and gaping holes on trucks that weren't more than 5 years old.
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I think the paint used on the frames and undercarriage, even the later trucks, is just too thin and low quality to do any good, regardless of where you live. When I picked my truck up from the dealer, it already had some surface rust on a few spots on the rear diff, and it was mfg'd less than a month before I picked it up.
Now, with 30k miles and 1 mild MD winter under my '06s belt (Oct. '06 production), I've found a couple spots where the frame is rusting near welds and the paint is flaking off. Guess it's time to hit it with a wire wheel and POR15.
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I am in the process of grinding off the rust on the underside of my 04 tundra (there is a lot!!) and coating the frame... would this affect my chances at a future recall????
I would say yes. If you could get by with using a wire brush instead, that would leave much less evidence of tampering. I've used a wire brush and flat black spray paint a few times on my diff housing, that place seems to be a trouble spot even on my '05.
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I am in the process of grinding off the rust on the underside of my 04 tundra (there is a lot!!) and coating the frame... would this affect my chances at a future recall????
since your in Wi i wouldn't be surprised it's like Michigan with the salt on there winter prone road's..I think it's a knowen Problem even 2007 Tundra owner's have the same deal too on rusted front rear and front bumper's (sr5) and frame showing some wear...
wear on my rear diff (04) I've also painted and check your frame under your bed as Note i've seen some damages in that area from Rust. For what we pay on these truck it's surely a Rust bucket (certain Trucks) hope the trade in value is decent with a recall. Doubt Toyota is going to issue any Recall's since there paying a lot on the first Gen Tacoma.
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Yesterday, when I was out in the back forty acres of my local dealership looking under the three older Tacomas parked back there, that were bought back by Toyota due to the rusted frame recall, I saw one that someone had tried to paint flat black on the frame rails, but apparantly the dealer still did the ball peen hammer test and the truck failed, so it really doesn't matter if it's been painted (although it might delay the inevitable rust-through) as long as the frame has rusted out holes in it after tapping on it.
Everyone knows? that Toyota has a five year unlimited mileage warranty on the body metal NOT rusting through. I used this warranty on an '87 Toyota P/U 4x4, and it cost Toyota Corp. something like several thousand dollars to replace and paint the bed of my truck in the early nineties.
I haven't seen hardly any rust on the sheet metal of my '01 Tundra. Rust is limited to just the frame and undercarriage, which I've given the POR15 application to the last few summers. It's been through seven Michigan rust belt winters. I usually power spray under the truck once a week in winter.
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Wow, I noticed some rusting on the frame in the engine compartment of my 03 Tundra used in Virginia. We have winter, snow and salt like Md, NJ, Southern NY, and Long Island. It was heavier than normal surface rust. Got me to planning the next project of a drill with a wire wheel, cleaner, primer and paint. But now I realize I'd be covering up a possible recall flaw. I remember having a Datsun B-210 in 1975 in NY. After 240,000 miles and about 7 years it had holes in the rocker panels that you could literally fit half your foot into up to the ankles. Rust holes on the quarter panels to and doors. BUT, that was 1975, recycled steel, cave man style rust preventative paints and undercoating ( like as in NONE) and it was a $2999 disposable car and most of all, NOT A 21st Century Toyota. . I love my Tundra and I'm beginning to feel that Toyota Corporation should be ashamed of itself. I bought a Toyota and spent more than a US truck for it's quality and longevity. The front end recall had me concerned but was quickly taken care of. Now, with what my truck looks like on the frame and what other trucks look like with more advanced rust.....I'm a bit pissed.
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my dealer says it is Tacoma's from 95-04 and if there is any rust, toyota will BUY the truck back. they also told me that the 4 runners are the same frame, but the difference was that 4 runner's were made in Japan and Taco's were made here in the US.
You're dealer is incorrect. 4Runner frame is a complete different design - fully boxed front to rear vs. boxed front/open rear.
And the recall doesn't go to 04... or at least I've not heard of anyone being successful getting anything newer than a '00 recalled; the original recall is 95.5-00
I was just talking with my service manager at the local dealership about this today. There are three frame rusted/rotted out Tacomas in the back lot of the dealership. He says this buyback program for just the Tacomas nationwide is costing Toyota Corp. something like 1.8 BILLION $ dollars! He also said part of the problem was the undercoating/paintjob from the frame supplier in California (late nineties-2000), but more so that the Tacoma frame was fully BOXED the entire length of the truck (unlike the Tundra's which are C-Channel from the engine bay rearward), and that there were no weap holes in the boxed frame for water to escape, resulting in rust/rot from the inside out! He also said Toyota is trying to recover financial damages from the bad frame supplier. Guess it all depends on if the test engineers determine if the rotted/rusted frame on the 1st generation Tundras is also a safety issue as with the early Tacomas, or just normal wear and tear type rust common to most vehicles in the Northeast/Midwest.
Tacoma frames are *NOT* fully boxed. Never have been. They are only boxed to the rear cab mount.
I'd have no problem blaming Dana (frame designer/builder for Tacoma) for the problems. Not at all.
I know that calcium chloride sh!t they drop on the roads when it snows eats the hell out of undercarriages. My buddy is a maintenance manager at VDOT and he's showed similar damage to their dump trucks that drop the stuff. It was as if you parked it in salt water for a year with the same flaking rust and gaping holes on trucks that weren't more than 5 years old.
This is a good part of the problem. I'm not excusing any toyota involvement (poor deisgn, coating, etc), but the move away from sand towards more salt and chemicals has been a huge problem, IMHO. I believe there was a class action lawsuit in NJ around this issue a number of years ago.
I gave up on buying an '08 due to the frame design problems. Maybe they'll fix it for '09 with the Diesel (more torque = more twisting). Was thinking about another gen-1 DC, but dang, Toyota's quality over the last 15 years is really making me think domestic....
I just took these pictures today of looking at the frame of my truck. This is on the passenger side 3rd frame support closest to the rear shocks. I can't believe that I'm driving the truck like this. Is there a way to fix hopefully? I only have 130k. This is ridiculous.
I just took these pictures today of looking at the frame of my truck. This is on the passenger side 3rd frame support closest to the rear shocks. I can't believe that I'm driving the truck like this. Is there a way to fix hopefully? I only have 130k. This is ridiculous.
sell it dam that doesn't look right hell i would pass on the New Tundra and buy a New 09 Ram ...
Well if I can get it fixed then I'll if not then I'll have to get rid of it. that means that all of my aftermarket goodies will be for sale.
I don't have anything near this on my Tundra frame and i've had (2) a 2000 I got brand new and the replacement 2004. Do u guy's live in area's prone to ice and snow? do you clean the underside of your truck's this all comes into play. Yea once in a wile i'll go offroading but i do clean the under side of my truck and Not have cake in mud..
If i kept this truck any longer or trade in for a new Truck/suv I'll line X the frame.
Re: wth...Tundra recall??????
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