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Old 07-10-2008, 10:07 AM
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Default ATF drain and refill is this normal

I am attempting to drain and refill my transmission. This is on a 2000 Tundra with a 4.7L 4x4. Are all of these shavings normal? Also, how many quarts do I need to replace? I read on here 4 quarts but the lady at NAPA told me 2.1 quarts. Thanks.





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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

4 qts. put in 3.5qts first then follow the procedure how to check transmission fluid. add if it needed little bit at a time until you get to level specified. DO NOT OVERFILL.
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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

There are a lot of shavings in there, but all in all, it looks alright.
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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

Newtregger, check out the Sticky: DIY (Do-It-Yourself) & User Knowledgebase
There are two nice threads in there regarding the ATF. One of them has a dozen pictures to follow.
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Newtregger, check out the Sticky: DIY (Do-It-Yourself) & User Knowledgebase
There are two nice threads in there regarding the ATF. One of them has a dozen pictures to follow.
Thanks. I did that. I was just concerned about all the shavings in there.

Thanks everyone for putting my mind at ease. I was very concerned when I saw all the shavings and some fairly large chunks. Two weeks ago I was coming back from Missouri towing a pop-up camper and a lot of weight in the back of my truck. The center console started to get very warm and then after unhooking the trailer, my truck was shifting very rough into overdrive. The problem has since gone away but I wanted to change the tranny fluid anyway being at 85,000 miles.
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Thanks. I did that. I was just concerned about all the shavings in there.

Thanks everyone for putting my mind at ease. I was very concerned when I saw all the shavings and some fairly large chunks. Two weeks ago I was coming back from Missouri towing a pop-up camper and a lot of weight in the back of my truck. The center console started to get very warm and then after unhooking the trailer, my truck was shifting very rough into overdrive. The problem has since gone away but I wanted to change the tranny fluid anyway being at 85,000 miles.
yeah that amount of shavings looks about right for 85k, you might want to drain and refill a couple more times to get all of the dirty atf out, theres alot that stays in the trans and lines.
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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

I would have a cow if I saw that many shavings in a pan! How many pounds of the stuff is "too much" for Pete's sake!
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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

the excessive heat and abnormal shifting i would be concerned about, shavings in pan would also worry me, seems to me that is a group of junk! looks like something has let loose?
Good luck! So how heavy of a load was it?

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Looks excessive to me. I would be worried.
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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

The abnormal shifting has gone away. But now you guys have me worried. I am leaving tomorrow for an eight hour trip to Michigan towing my speed boat. Let's just hope I don't blow it up! I'll let you know what happens.
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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

If you see big chunks of metal, then you should worry.

If what we see in that picture is all stuff that would smear between your fingers, you're good to go. Clutch packs wear. I'm more worried when the fluid smells burnt. That's a sign that things have been slipping.

I think the picture makes things look worse than they are.
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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

Sounds like the planetary gear is shaving down, a common problem 2000 to 2002, whatever you do don't tow with over drive on, its that gear that eventually grenades. Plan a new trans $3500 at the dealer.

Do a search on planetary gears exploding, theres lots of pictures floating around.

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Sounds like the planetary gear is shaving down, a common problem 2000 to 2002, whatever you do don't tow with over drive on, its that gear that eventually grenades. Plan a new trans $3500 at the dealer.

Do a search on planetary gears exploding, theres lots of pictures floating around.

Good luck.
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Just so I understand, when you say "don't tow with the overdrive on, it's that gear that eventually grenades", is it the 4th (highest) gear that can't take the strain, i.e. take it out of O/D so you are only in 3 gears??

(I have a 2002 2WD A/C; haven't towed anything yet, but a boat is on the drawing board and I want to know what to watch out for...)



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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

Regardless of the year, model or even brand of truck, towing in overdrive is a no-no. Just lock out the overdrive when towing (overdrive = 4th gear) and drive 50-65 MPH in
3rd gear. 3rd gear is direct drive.
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Default Re: ATF drain and refill is this normal

NO. It is NOT normal.

Your tranny is not long to this world.
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