toyota corp extended warranty

[GORILLA]

hi, as it is getting close to my 3rd year of ownership of my toyota's. the toyota corp called me to offer me a extended warrenty.
2 type's gold plus or platinum extra care.
STOP! THINK! DID ANY MOD'S LATELY?

i also called my dealership before i bought this policy.
since they also have a rep within there dealership for this.
the same toyota corp warrenty policy's.

some thing to know. the southeast toyota corp isn't allowed to offer you a discount on your policy.1 price and only 1 price. where other region's allow for discount's.

contact motor credit division as to your question's.

also my dealership told me do not purchase any extended warrenty for my tundra. i aksed why? they told me the service director said nothing on my truck would be covered. do to all your aftermarket mod's. from front to the back, inside and out, i have changed so many thing's that nothing will be covered.

so i hope i don't blow it up any time soon. LOL

yes, i know they have to prove that my mod had a specific cause to effect the warrenty issue.

to be honest, by the time i went through all this BS, lost time of my vehicle, many phone call's, etc-it wouldn't be worth the time and effort to fight it. just fix it.

i just wanted all of you to know once you change something and they know about it, your toast.
i'm not here to debate it!
just figured i'd let you in on this info.

also if i was to do it all over again, and i will for my next gen2 tundra, i will never ever bring my tundra in ,even if it was for a oil change,
i will take it else where.

this way if i had a issue, i can disconnect the tuner 1st, or whatever - than bring it in.

i didn't plan on so many mod's other than trd stuff anyway.
such as trd superchager, trd cold air intake, and trd exhuast, and a sneaky chip & a rear anti sway bar.
which i will be able to remove, before service warrenty issue.

i also discussed driopping the truck or lift kit's, they said the same thing warrenty is void if there is a issue of suspension.
so be careful, i know most are aware of they have to prove it, well, it will take a attorney and court to fight it, & that take's money. plus the down time of you not having your vehicle.

live and learn.

keep whatever you do quiet, from the dealership the less, they know the better off you will be.
gorilla

[RFT]

Hmmm. I wonder if Bilstiens set at max in the front and a diff drop kit would void my warranty?? As far as the oil changes I have lifetime so I am bringing it in.

[TundraSurfBum]

BS. They have to PROVE that the mod caused the problem. They can't refuse service. I have mods and th eplatinum warranty and have never been questioned about it. I also called before lifting the truck and was given the thumbs up by Toyota... now I don't have half the chit in the engine you do.... but none the less.. they have to PROVE it is a result of the mod.

[sr5mike]

Originally Posted by TundraSurfBum

BS. They have to PROVE that the mod caused the problem. They can't refuse service. I have mods and th eplatinum warranty and have never been questioned about it. I also called before lifting the truck and was given the thumbs up by Toyota... now I don't have half the chit in the engine you do.... but none the less.. they have to PROVE it is a result of the mod.

I think It is up to you to prove that it is not because of the mod. Sad but true.

[TundraSurfBum]

Originally Posted by sr5mike

I think It is up to you to prove that it is not because of the mod. Sad but true.

wrong...

The Magnuson-Moss Act
Protecting tweakers, tuners, and other users of aftermarket equipment (not to mention the sellers!).

FANNING FEARS

You want to upgrade your vehicle with aftermarket equipment, but you’re worried about putting the vehicle’s warranty at risk. It’s no wonder. How many times have you heard somene of a dealership say that installing aftermarket equipment automatically voids the warranty? This common misconception has been repeated often enough to be widely believed – though it is completely false.

Fact: Dealers don’t like warranty work, because it pays less than normal repair work. By promoting the myth that aftermarket equipment automatically voids warranties, some dealers avoid such low-paying work. Instead, they attempt to charge customers the prime service rate for work which is rightfully done under warranty.

THE TRUTH

Most vehicle owners are not aware they are protected by federal law: the Magnuson-Moss Warranty – Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975. Under the Magnuson-Moss Act, aftermarket equipment which improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturer’s original warranty, unless the warranty clearly and conspicuously states that aftermarket equipment voids the warranty. Most states have warranty statutes, as well. Which provide further protections for vehicle owners.

In other words, that means a dealer can’t wiggle out of his legal warranty obligation merely because you install aftermarket equipment. To find out if any aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle’s warranty, check the owner’s manual. It is likely the language you are looking for appears under a heading such as “What Is Not Covered” Although the language seems negative, remember your vehicle manufacturer is simply saying he does not cover the aftermarket products themselves. He is not saying that the products would void the vehicle warranty.

VEHICLE DEALERS OBLIGATIONS
Suppose your modified vehicle needs repairs while still under warranty. Without analyzing the true cause of the problem, the dealer attempts to deny warranty coverage. He made his decision simply based on the fact that you’ve installed aftermarket equipment – a convenient way to dodge low-paying warranty work.

An example of how ridiculous this can get is the man who was denied warranty coverage by a dealer on his power door locks, because he had improved his exhaust system! Sounds nuts? It really happened – because that man did not know his rights and challenge the dealer’s decision.

Fact: A dealer must prove – not just say – that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before he can deny warranty coverage on that basis.

YOUR RIGHTS

Point out to the dealer the provision of the Magnuson-Moss Act- Require that he explain to you how the aftermarket equipment caused the problem. If he can’t – or his explanation sounds questionable – it is your legal right to demand he comply with the warranty.

Fact: If you are still being unfairly denied warranty coverage, there is recourse. The Federal Trade Commission, which administers the Magnuson-Moss Act, monitors compliance with warranty issues. Direct complaints to the FCT at (202) 326-3128.

FEDERAL LAW
In order to improve the adequacy of information available to consumers, prevent deception, and improve competition in the marketing of consumer products, any warrantor warranting a consumer product to a consumer by means of a written warranty shall. . .fully and conspicuously disclose in simple and readily understood language the terms and conditions of such warranty. Such rules . . . require inclusion in the written warranty of any . . . exceptions and exclusions from the terms of the warranty.’ – Magnuson-Moss Warranty Federal Trade Commission improvement Act. Section 2302(a)

[GORILLA]

how long will that take, after they deny the warrenty claim, for you to get it fixed?
do you need to get a independent ase mech to write a report?
do they send someone to look at the vehicle, & how long does it take?
do you need to hire a attorney?
take them to small claims court. that take's month's.
and so on.
in the mean time, they won't fix your vehicle.
all what your saying take's time and money.
mean while you out a vehicle, until it's fixed.
put nitrous on your truck blow it up , ask for the warrenty to rebuild your motor.
and than ask for the magnuson moss act. that federal law, won't help you.
when your truck comes with a standard HP and you increase it, with mod's, you will void your warrenty.
i'm not saying you put on a set of aftermarket brake pad's here. you would be right maybe in that case.
but put on a turbo and increase the HP 100+ try that federal law, you will LOOSE!
gorilla

[TundraSurfBum]

Originally Posted by GORILLA

how long will that take, after they deny the warrenty claim, for you to get it fixed?
do you need to get a independent ase mech to write a report?
do they send someone to look at the vehicle, & how long does it take?
do you need to hire a attorney?
take them to small claims court. that take's month's.
and so on.
in the mean time, they won't fix your vehicle.
all what your saying take's time and money.
mean while you out a vehicle, until it's fixed.
put nitrous on your truck blow it up , ask for the warrenty to rebuild your motor.
and than ask for the magnuson moss act. that federal law, won't help you.
when your truck comes with a standard HP and you increase it, with mod's, you will void your warrenty.
i'm not saying you put on a set of aftermarket brake pad's here. you would be right maybe in that case.
but put on a turbo and increase the HP 100+ try that federal law, you will LOOSE!
gorilla

No
NO
NO
and
NO

burden of proof is on them... this isn't anything new... stealership scare tactics are nothing new.... trust me when you go in with this printed out and or call the "real" toyota.... they will fix the problem. as for th eturbo.... they still have to PROVE that the turbo caused whatever problem... there is no way around it, I don't care what any grease monkey told you.

[Boosted27606]

Theoretically, the Magnuson-Moss Act will protect you. Problem is dealers have the time and the aggravation they cause you on their side. They also have lawyers on call that LOVE to make your life a living hell.

You can take them to small claims court, but this will take time and may last weeks if not months. Meanwhile, your truck will be sitting there waiting...............

A more astute option is to play dirty ( like they do ). I once had a warranty claim on a Mazda denied eventhough I had done nothing wrong. I decided to play ball and paid them anyway ( $1,100 )with a check. On my way home I stopped by my Bank and put a stop to that check.

A few days later, guess who called me ?

My favorite Mazda Dealer ............ he wanted to let me know my check bounced ...........No $hit Sherlock !

I told him to honor the warranty and get paid by whoever administered it. He then threatened legal action, I suggested to him to please proceed and I am sure the Judge would love to hear my story.

To make a long story short, I never heard from the SOBs again.

My take on extended warranties is simple= DON'T BOTHER

The reason all Dealers push those is because THEY profit the most from them ( at your expense ).

If you are so concerned about catastrophic repair expenses, Put $1,200 when you buy the truck into a CD or some interest bearing investment and in 6 or 7 years you wil have enough to pay most repairs that may occur ( and yet, you probably will have that money left over to get you some nice, fun mods ).

[p-car-tower]

the Magnuson-Moss Warranty – Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975. Under the Magnuson-Moss Act, aftermarket equipment which improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturer’s original warranty

Don't confuse the manufacturer's original warranty, which is covered by the Moss-Magnusen Act, with an aftermarket warranty (I would bet that the Toyota extended warranty is considered an aftermarket warranty) which may not be covered by the M-M Act.

[GORILLA]

thankyou to you all. i did copy this & i will save it.
& i do have some loose change hanging around, it was for the gen2, but since that has changed for now, i'll save it, just in case it need's to be used, on a warrenty item.
;-)
gorilla

[Mazatlan]

Originally Posted by TundraSurfBum

wrong...

The Magnuson-Moss Act
Protecting tweakers, tuners, and other users of aftermarket equipment (not to mention the sellers!).

(a)

Wow, thanks for the good research and into Surf Bum!

[TundraSurfBum]

I can't take credit for the research... I learned about it from this forum... and then just read up on it

[Boosted27606]

hahaha

Surfbum, you should have taken the credit and impress the new guy !!

[sr5mike]

I have never had a problem my dealership bends over backwards to get repairs covered. But in the mid 90's I had a pathfinder. That dealership did whatever they could to not cover our extended warranty repairs. Calls to corp. Nissan fell on deaf ears. So my situation was do I pay for the 500.00 repair or do I get a lawyer and go after them. Lawyer = 1500.00 repairs = 500.00. While I might have gotten my repairs covered my legal fees are mine. So I tucked my tail between my legs and went to another dealer that covered it with out a second look. Sometimes know matter what you say or do they won’t do the work. I never considered writing a check then stopping payment. I don’t want them turning it into collections. In the end you need a good dealership that values customer service. Because know matter what you say or do, once they dig their heels in your screwed. Now you may have a case you can win in court but at that point you have lost time, money and piece of mind.

[GORILLA]

my plan is in 3 to 4 year's i should have 60,000 miles on my truck.

which is way past the 5year or 60,000 mile oem warrrenty anyway.

and i planned on getting something new again by than anyway.
so if the truck last's without any issue's, i'll be happy.

since i had all work done professionally, i shouldn't have a issue.
no back yard mech rigging,taping, etc. LOL

in 2011 or 2012 we all should see some really cool vehicle's.
with major overhaul's & body change's.
gorilla