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This is a discussion thread titled "2001 Tundra.... steering rack rack junk!!!", within the 1Gen-Tundra forum, part of the Truck Forums category.
Has anyone ever heard or seen of a steering rack rot from the inside out? On my 2001 Tundra the painted portion of the rack, where the line are located has completely rotted away but the paint is still fine!!! You can grab it with your hand an squeeze. It cost me just under 1K for fix it...
Has anyone ever heard or seen of a steering rack rot from the inside out? On my 2001 Tundra the painted portion of the rack, where the line are located has completely rotted away but the paint is still fine!!! You can grab it with your hand an squeeze. It cost me just under 1K for fix it...
Ever seen that NAPA commercial with Michael Waltrip and he realizes he is at the wrong track...........
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Nope, just replaced the steering rack bushings on two trucks, an '03 and '05 didn't see anything like you described on either. However, water or some other contaminate in the Power Steering Fluid could easily do this over time, maybe something the rest of us should think about.
BJ
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Last edited by BAD BONEZ BJ; 08-29-2008 at 12:03 AM.
Ive never seen that before either, on anyones racks. I always like the trucks with steering box's and swinger style steering. In dirt, stock steering racks are your worst enemy!
Ive never seen that before either, on anyones racks. I always like the trucks with steering box's and swinger style steering. In dirt, stock steering racks are your worst enemy!
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Yes a steering box uses a pitman arm. the older pre-95 Toyota pickups used them with a swing set steering. When the Tacoma and T-100 was released, thats when the steering rack became used. The 4wd T-100 used a steering box still, but they used the rack for the 2wd.
You can see the steering box on the side of the frame rails
My truck had a similar issue. My power steering fluid was burned, lost its lubrication/chemical properties. It destroyed inside of my rack. Destroyed my pump. And melted my plastic reservoir. Went to junk yard pulled a rack of a truck that was totalled in a roll over. Got me a new pump, rack, bolts/nuts, bushings for 100$, Got an aluminium reservoir from an 07 Tacoma for 50$. Installed everything myself, took about 3 hours. Drove it, next day my high pressure line blew. Dealer wanted 250$ and no one else has the part. Went to a forklift shop and had them fab me a new one, guy estimated it at 2500 psi before it would blow, never had a problem since, it actually turns my 33's easier than it turned my stocks.
GM had a problem for many years of the Teflon sealing rings on the control valve wearing into the aluminum rack housing. Once the wear started aluminum flakes entered the power steering system. The fluid would turn gray. The aluminum in the fluid would cause accelerated wear and some time takes out pumps and seal. Usually the first thing an owner would notice is the lack of power steering when the system was cold in the morning. I replace many, many of these racks for this problem, but have never seen one wear through the housing or have a hole in it.
We still need pictures of your damaged rack. Or if you want to realy know what happened, send it to me and I can analyze the reason for the failure. This is something I do in my job.
Mike
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Has anyone ever heard or seen of a steering rack rot from the inside out? On my 2001 Tundra the painted portion of the rack, where the line are located has completely rotted away but the paint is still fine!!! You can grab it with your hand an squeeze. It cost me just under 1K for fix it...
What brand/rating of ATF were you using in the system and how often were you flushing it?
Thanks all for responding. I don't have pictures to show. I am not sure what good it would do since the problem seemed to be from the inside out. The only indication of rott was around where the lines are located. Other than cutting it apart. The rack had a core charge of about $125, so i had to return it. The mechanic seemed to feel that i may not get the core redemption since it was junk. If they don't except it i will ask for it back but i think thats a slim chance. As far as overheating the fluid, never happened, reservoir was fine, lines were fine, pump is fine. I never flushed my power steering before, in any vehicle. I never thought of it as an issue. I always checked it for fluid level and visual inspection, did not seem like there was any contamination.
Thanks all for responding. I don't have pictures to show. I am not sure what good it would do since the problem seemed to be from the inside out. The only indication of rott was around where the lines are located. Other than cutting it apart. The rack had a core charge of about $125, so i had to return it. The mechanic seemed to feel that i may not get the core redemption since it was junk. If they don't except it i will ask for it back but i think thats a slim chance. As far as overheating the fluid, never happened, reservoir was fine, lines were fine, pump is fine. I never flushed my power steering before, in any vehicle. I never thought of it as an issue. I always checked it for fluid level and visual inspection, did not seem like there was any contamination.
I always change the PS fluid every 30,000 miles on my vehicles. Not hard, you can drop one of the hoses and drain from there or get a Mighty Vac from AutoZone, $25.00, and suck the PS fluid from the reservoir and refill . Do this about 6 times to get it the old out (Drive around and let it circulate, then drain each time) Cost a little more since you will be refilling each time, but it works.
My 86 Buick T-Type still has the original PS pump on it, used the MightyVac method on it
Thanks for the mighty vac recommendation. That also works very well for the brakes and clutch too (especially for bleeding the clutch). I think flushing the PS fluid every 30K is right on the mark, and flush the tranny while your at it too!
Thanks for the mighty vac recommendation. That also works very well for the brakes and clutch too (especially for bleeding the clutch). I think flushing the PS fluid every 30K is right on the mark, and flush the tranny while your at it too!
My PS fluid was black when I changed it, now it's clear I use Valvoline Synthetic Power Steering fluid which is approved for PS pumps for Toyota's, GM, Ford..etc which use Trans Fluid. Flush out the old stuff using cheap fluid (store brand), then change over when the fluid becomes clear..
Thank you all, the only logical explanation that seemed to make sense to me was that the previous owner may have taken the truck onto the beach. It may have had salt water exposed to it. Once that starts there is no end to it....
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2001 Tundra.... steering rack rack junk!!!
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Flush out the old stuff using cheap fluid (store brand), then change over when the fluid becomes clear..
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