Originally posted by RichR I think this holds up until you would try to trade it in.See how much it holds.It only works for the dealers.I priced my truck'02 SR5 4x4 AccessTRD 15k miles only$21k a month ago.I know I took it in the shorts when I traded a CTDRam on it a year ago.But I had to get otta Dodge.
The dealer will always hose you on your trade. If at all possible, sell it yourself private party and buy the vehicle w/o trade.
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The double cab is nice but here in Connecticut they're going for big bucks, as much as a simmilar Tundra. I saw one for sale, new, with some accessories like brush guards and a cap for a whopping $36,000?? But that was in Westport(overpriced everything) where I have seen a IS Tundra limited for $40,000. Rediculous but they both sold quickly. In my opinion the DC Taco looks somewhat disproportional with the short bed and long cab- minds well get a 4runner and have Japanese build quality, reliability with a lockable cargo space.
Don't forget about ride quality. I've owned both a Taco and a Tundra, and there's no contest as far as the ride is concerned. The Tundra rides like a Lexus, the Tacoma like an old ford pickup.
Wait until Q3 this year and at least look at the Double Cab Tundra. Best of both worlds. Granted, it will probably cost a little more, but you have 9 or 10 months to save for it. Barring that, unless you need the REAR seat legroom, there's no question but to get the Tundra. That comment about the Taco also having more front seat legroom is misleading. Although on paper it may have slightly more (I don't have the specs handy) the difference would have to be negligible, and the Tundra feels much larger inside overall.
That comment about the Taco also having more front seat legroom is misleading. Although on paper it may have slightly more (I don't have the specs handy) the difference would have to be negligible, and the Tundra feels much larger inside overall.
That was my comment, it's based on the numbers from the brochures. I agree that it's misleading, I also agree that the Tundra feels larger inside overall. I'm about 5' 9", so I don't really need a huge amount of legroom, but then again I have the driver's seat in my Tundra all the way back. I have the numbers here for legroom:
Tundra Front = 41.5 inches
Tundra Rear = 29.6 inches
Taco Front = 42.8 inches
Taco Rear = 33.8 inches
So yes the difference in front seat legroom is only 1.3" between the 2, probably not a big deal for most people.
The biggest point I was trying to make was that for only a bit more money you get a hell of a lot more truck by going with the Tundra. Just my $0.02.
Originally posted by HotRod8 Tundra Front = 41.5 inches
Tundra Rear = 29.6 inches
Taco Front = 42.8 inches
Taco Rear = 33.8 inches
Wow. That is extremely misleading. I think it must be an issue with the seat height. I drove a '94 Ext cab... same cab as the Taco... for 200k and I was always smacking my shin on the dash getting in and out and felt like my knees were up around my ears while driving on a long road trip.
The Tundra is WAY more comfortable.
Another issue with the '94 for the front passenger was the heater duct. Anyone with a shoe over size 8 could not put their foot flat on the firewall footrest because their toes would hit the heater ductwork. Putting them flat on the floor was extremely uncomfortable... there was no end to the complaints I heard from passengers on that one.
Bear in mind that the issues that I had with the '94 may have been addressed in the Taco, but I can't imagine higher seating... my head nearly touched the roof as it was.
I do agree that there appeared to be more backseat room in the '94, but again, I run with both seats all the way back too.
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Originally posted by Rlockyer The dealer will always hose you on your trade. If at all possible, sell it yourself private party and buy the vehicle w/o trade.
I couldn't agree more. Figure a trade/private sale spread of at least $3000 on that vehicle. A clean, reliable, nice looking truck ain't hard to sell at all. Not bragging, but my wife and I've been able to drive really nice cars on the cheap because we bought them privately and sold them privately, and kept the dealers' hands out of the pie. Last was a '98 BMW 540i sport that we had about a year. Paid $33,000 at 64k miles. Sold it for $30,700 at 80K miles(emissions warranty expired and catalytic converters run $900 each on these babies). This is luxury car depreciation, too, which is much higher than Toyota trucks. Retail on that car was about $38,500 (w/ warranty which this one had already) and trade in value was $27,000. We'd have eaten $11,500 in depreciation instead of just $2300 if dealers were involved. They have to make a profit. Private sellers/buyers just want a decent deal.
You won't lose as much, but I would say you'll loose $3000 on the trade and pay $1,000 to $2,000 more(net after tax considerations) on a used Tundra from a dealer(depending on your state's vehicle sales tax laws). That could be a five grand spread there!
If you're worried about not having a car for a while after you sell yours, just find a long term rental...not too expensive by the month. Sell your truck, rent a car/truck, and go Tundra shopping. You'll also find it easier when you've already paid off your loan and have cash in hand for a down payment. But If you're upside down in your loan and don't have the cash to get even, you should probably wait....you're broke! : )
A toyota truck resells so high, it'd be a shame to give much of that to the dealer.
I would say the tundra. I raced my friends double cab, and beat him. He had 4 other people in his truck so that slowed him down, but I still think that I would've beat him had his truck been empty.