What do I have to worry about with my transfer case and front drive axles? excessive wear, angles, etc...
Does anyone know a coil-over set up that comes in black in stead of red?
I kinda wanted to keep my truck about the same for towing and when it's loaded, so do I need to beef up the rear too? if the front gets lifted any I kind of want to lift the rear the same to keep the rake.
I'm pretty new to this but I have been finding a lot of good info on here, this is just the set up that I think would be the best. ON that note, what is the difference between these and going with the bilstein 5100's? I would still do the camburg UCA's or a UCA upgrade in general.
Hope to find some info.
does anyone have the full camburg coil-over/UCA set up on their truck with some pics?
If your looking for black and performance upgrade to Icon's and the Camburg package at Wheelers Icon Vehicle Dynamics Coilover Shocks from Wheeler's Off-Road. My brother has this on his 02' and wow what a difference. With this package the Icon's are the extended travel coilover. In the rear I would go for an add-a-leaf since you tow. This set up will satisfy all your needs and more. Spend the money the first time and do it right it will save you alot, trust me!
I agree with Derek24 aout the Icon Coilovers. However , I went with the Total Chaos UCA's. I put Deaver minipacks and Icon's new smooth body 2.5 shocks in the rear on my 2008 Tundra Crewmax.
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Thanks for the update on the ICON's they look exactly like what I want, I was thinking the total chaos UCA's but then I couldn't find the link again. Are the TC UCA's made by camburg?
I was looking for the Deaver Minipacks for the 04 DC but I didn't see them, they are for the rear suspension right ( sorry I just bought my first truck ever.)?
I definitely want to have this done right, my truck is only at 60k and I want it to be a siccer ride.
Total Chaos is its own company(2008 Total Chaos Fabrication). There are +and- over Total Chaos and Camburg, but in the end they do the same thing and are both great products. Here's a link to Deaver's web site for the mini pack part# F85, Deaver Suspension.
I would give Wheelers a call tomorrow and ask them about the mini pack its not on their web site for our trucks, but I'm sure they could order it from you. Thats the cool thing about Wheeler's is that they work with you and have tons of experience on Toyota's, feels like your talking to your friend not a sales person! Tell them what your plans are and they will walk you through the steps.
So with the Icon coil-overs, is it pretty easy to change the setting they are on? If I have the shocks set on 0'' of lift then would having the UCA's allow me to have slightly bigger tires or do I need to set them to a lifted position? I kinda wonder now what the minimum lift would be to add bigger tires, with the coil-over/UCA...
I was looking at the deavers again and they look like a good add on. They lift the rear 1.5'' though right? So if they lift 1.5'', can I set the Icon's or the Camburg's to 1.5" to keep the rake?
What benefits would I get out of putting sway bars on? any examples I should look at?
Is this set up adjustable in the rear then? I don't mind the silver coils. And I still can just throw the UCA's on there right?
What's the difference in quality between the bilsteins, icons and camburgs? Do the icons and the camburgs just blow this setup out of the water or is it a wash?
I just put on the ICON Stg II kit this summer along with Total Chaos(TC) upper control arms, TC diff drop, and TC stearing bushing kit. I am quite happy with the results.
The coilovers are set at 2" of lift from the factory which was bang on. The rear progressive 3 add a leafs added only 1" in my case, so in the end the rear sits 1/2" higher with no load.
To adjust the front height you just need the wrench(which isn't included ). Not sure how hard it is. Sounds like you loosen the set screws and turn down the ring.
The main reason I went with ICON and TC is there is a dealer close buy, so dealing with issues would be easier. I dont' think there are any Camburg dealers in Canada. Either I am sure would serve you well.
I drive some sketchy mountain roads getting to ski hills in the winter so the plan is to put on some Nokian Hak 5 studded tires in 265/70 R17 on the factory wheels for the winter and get annother set of wheels&tires next spring. These tires are approx 1" larger in diameter than stock and should fit easilly with 2" of lift(would probably fit with no lift.)
Depending on how they look I will decide on what size to get in the spring.
I just put on the ICON Stg II kit this summer along with Total Chaos(TC) upper control arms, TC diff drop, and TC stearing bushing kit. I am quite happy with the results.
Hey did you do the CV boot mod with the 2 clamps or are you just using the one? Have you had any grease spitting out of your CV's?
So with the Icon coil-overs, is it pretty easy to change the setting they are on? If I have the shocks set on 0'' of lift then would having the UCA's allow me to have slightly bigger tires or do I need to set them to a lifted position? I kinda wonder now what the minimum lift would be to add bigger tires, with the coil-over/UCA...
I was looking at the deavers again and they look like a good add on. They lift the rear 1.5'' though right? So if they lift 1.5'', can I set the Icon's or the Camburg's to 1.5" to keep the rake?
What benefits would I get out of putting sway bars on? any examples I should look at?
You'll have to have the spanner wrench to adjust the height of the Icons, just lossen the set screw and turn the coilover. Very easy! As GasCan said they come from the factory set at 2inches of lift, whick will work well with 265's, but you will have to lift it more (2.5inches) to fit 285's or become a lumber jack on your inner wheel well. What my brother and did was drive the truck around see if it rubs come back lift it a little and drive it again until its perfect, also it takes a couple hundred miles for the coilover to settle. Just have to play with it.
You said you tow alot so I would stay away from the full deaver 10 pack it decreases your payload and would sag like an old man. I would do what GasCan did and puchase the 3 leaf progressive pack from Wheelers. Remember that the rear is higher than the front, usuall if you lift the rear a certain height double that and thats how much to lift the front to be level (1inch rear= 2inches in the front). Sway bars will help alot in cornering and stability while towing, but will take away a lot of articulation when offroad.
Is this set up adjustable in the rear then? I don't mind the silver coils. And I still can just throw the UCA's on there right?
What's the difference in quality between the bilsteins, icons and camburgs? Do the icons and the camburgs just blow this setup out of the water or is it a wash?
Thats actually not a bad deal for all that you get front and back lift, add some Camburgs or Total Chaos UCA's and you'll have a very capable rig. Bilsteins are a great company almost everyone on this form has some Bilstiens on their trucks. I would say that the Icons are built a little better in terms of offroading and high speed running. Either way you'll have a smooth and solid ride. Good luck!
I talked to Jason at Wheelers today and he said the best deal for the rear is to do the AAL. Otherwise I would just decrease my payload.
I think I'm going to do the Icon coil overs with the TC UCA's, the steering rack bushing kit from TC, and a differential drop for the front. I'm thinking I'll just want to spend the money later anyway if I get the toytec ultimate.
If I do the AAL, can I, or do I need to add these shocks or some bilsteins to the rear? I just figure I'd be putting them on, but I wasn't sure if I got quoted for that.
I'm happy to have a number so I can start moving funds and excited to see how this is going to look.
Yeah Jason knows his stuff. Just go for the rear 5100's while you're spending the money anyway they are very good shocks, you'll just end up getting them later on down the road!. An AAL will be fine and go for towing and hauling, if I lived closer I'd just give you mine thats just sitting here in the shed. Sweet, post some pics when your done. Your truck will be the exact same set-up as my brothers!
What's the difference in quality between the bilsteins, icons and camburgs? Do the icons and the camburgs just blow this setup out of the water or is it a wash?
To me it looks like they just added a threaded sleeve to a Bilstein 5100. The bottom knuckle is just welded where as the ICON and Camburg are solid aluminum machined. The shock is also kinda upsidedown with the reservoir adding to the sprung weight. Not sure how much difference it makes in the end however. The ToyTec does look like a very cost effective kit.
The ICON coilover is a solid piece, with the upper and lower attachments nicely machined and powdercoated.(I am a sucker for that). The ICON Stage II kit comes with progressive addaleafs, and shocks specifically valved to match the front(they do kinda look like Bilsteins.)
The TC steering bushings are the best 50 bucks you can spend I think. Doing it yourself is a bit messy. I got black melted sh*t all over the place.
Make sure you lube your new urethane bushings with Teflon grease otherwise they will squeek like crazy.
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). Not sure how hard it is. Sounds like you loosen the set screws and turn down the ring. 
. I would do what GasCan did and puchase the 3 leaf progressive pack from Wheelers. Remember that the rear is higher than the front, usuall if you lift the rear a certain height double that and thats how much to lift the front to be level (1inch rear= 2inches in the front). Sway bars will help alot in cornering and stability while towing, but will take away a lot of articulation when offroad.
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