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So, i've been working for a while (I'm young, just got a first job a year ago). I inherited my dad's 2005 Dbl Cab 4x4. I have enough money now and i'm ready to fork out the $1700 needed for an STS Single Turbo System. As they claim, a typical engine will gain 25-50hp per psi depending on applications. Running 5-6psi of boost will bump stock 272bhp to 400-425bhp. I'm really eager to just say screw it and drop the 1.7 grand on it. But, i'm going to hold off until i get some second opinions. I wouldn't hesitate if it wasn't for the vvt-i in the '05-'06. Opinions?
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:43 PM
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$1,700 for the entire system?!?!?!?!? Damn, I thought they were a lot more....What do you have so far?
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No modifications have been done. Not even visually, unless you count the running boards (which look awsome, btw). Yeah, i'm not sure if posting external links is allowed, but if you go to the STSTubo website, you can get a universal bolt-on single system for $1695. Or a Twin-Turbo System for $2745. I'm just curious on what the engine can safely take without modifiying anything on the engine. And apparently, if you order a Universal system, they can help apply it to your specific application, or in my case, a Tundra.
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Any site links?
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Squires Turbo Systems - Universal
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Here's the link. Squires Turbo Systems - Turbocharged Innovation! I think I'd spend the money elsewhere.
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That site doesn't give me a real good feeling about giving them my money.
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Small private firm tuners....they rarely do the R&D needed to make the thing run properly under all conditions. Unless you have mechanical / tuning knowledge and tools, or know someone who does, it will probably take a lot of work getting the kit up and running perfectly. Very unlikely it will just bolt up and be 100% right out of the box.
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Oh of course. My dad has a 2-car garage full of tools and the knowledge to follow. He's big on cars. STS is actually fairly renowned in magazines such as Road&Track and Car&Driver. That's where i heard about them. That, and they're the only people I know of who make Turbochargers that will fit on a '05 Tundra vvt-i. I don't know. I guess you could say i'm addicted to power. Nothing gives me a bigger grin than being in a big bulky vehicle that, upon pressing the accelerator, THROWS you into the seat. I had a friend with a F250 i think, or F150. He had like, $12,000 in it, and it made like 620rwhp. I got to drive it once, and oh my god. 0-60 in 4 seconds never felt more exhilarating. I guess that's what i'm trying to shoot for. Maybe not that level, but just the feeling of owning and driving a mid-13 to mid-14 second half-ton truck.
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i dont know much about STS but when you do forced induction you will need to be able to control the ecu by ether a stand alone ECU or piggy back ECU. if you go piggy back the best one in my opinion is the URD fuel and timing control unit.
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What about Unichip?
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^^Ehhh, nah.....URD is your best bet...Plus very knowledgeable.....
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to try and do a universal kit without a full shop, good luck, but if you do spring for it keep us posted

the universal kit is not a bolt on, it gives you a lot of the parts to maybe get the job done but you have a lot of cutting and fitting to do.

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Hey man. I LOVE the idea of turbocharging your tundra. I have worked on drag race cars that make over 1,600WHP and ran 7 second quarter miles that ran twin turbo chargers. While I am a firm believer in turbo chargers, here are some reasons I'd stay away from that kit in particular.

1) First of all, the UNIVERSAL turbo kit is a remote turbo system. It does not come with custom headers or much piping at all to direct the flow of exhaust in order to spool up the turbo. That means that you'll have to mount the turbo AFTER the Y-pipe which is directly above the road. BAD idea. Did you notice the air filter connected to the turbo? Do you want that UNDER your truck exposed like that?

2) In all my experience working with turbo charged vehicles, we have used an intercooler. This kit does not come with one and doesn't even have an option for one. With the location of where the turbo is mounted, radiant heat from your exhaust will heat the air it forces into your engine. Not only will your engine already be running hotter because of the forced air, but the air will be hot = engine wear and tear.

Honestly, if you're bent on turbos, you should save more money (around $5K depending on how fancy you wanna get) and get a reputable performance motorsports shop to make a custom system made for you. The Gen 1 Tundra's weakest link is the crappy stock exhaust manifolds that can be replaced with aftermarket headers $250-900 that will give you a SIGNIFICANT performance gain. Start slowly first and work your way up. There are so many other things that your truck will benefit from before you need a turbo (i.e. exhaust upgrade, headers, cams, electric fan, ECU re-tuning, etc)

Sorry for ranting. I love turbos, but I'd hate to see you spend all that money and end up dissapointed.
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Hate to brake it to you dude, but our BHP is more like 220 @ 5049. So running 5-6 PSI with that kit could bring you up to roughly 330bhp. You do that with headers, exhaust, etc. And you can get around 360bhp without requiring more engine work.


But like stated above, I would rather go with a built specific setup. That's why I haven't gotten the STS kit. Motiva Performance makes a tundra specific kit. But that's like $5K. LOL.
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