For all of you folks out there that think you have problems with your 2000 tundra, here are the links for the TSB's for all of the similar Big 3 junkers.
All TSB's are for 2000 model 2wd truck with the closest liter engine to the tundra. Sure the Tundra has a few TSB's but 2000 was it's first year out. Look how long the Big3 junkers have been out. The TSB list for the 2003 year model is listed below for all 4 trucks. The Tundras list has become considerably shorter. Most improved however is Dodge, chevy by far has the most. Chevy already has recalls for 2003.... observe.
And just where does Chevy gets it motto "most dependable longest lasting truck on the road?" I guess when it comes to the dealership every week for 10 years to get TSB's done on it it might be the most longest lasting truck on the road, I don't know
However, I don't believe in "Misery Loves Company." Until we all stop accepting poor products and especially poor Customer Service, the Automakers will continue to give the public what they want - substandard products. Another reason why this List, and others, with the crutial exchange of information and education, is very important to change American's thoughts about our vehicles. Never should we accept anything but perfection in our vehicles, and just maybe, with enough educated folks, will make the Car Builders put out a better product.
Toyota seems to be futher along than the Big 2 here in the US, but, especially with the brake TSB, they have a real credibility problem in my opinion with something as major as brakes. It should have been an all-out recall. It would have cost alot now, but in the future, would have helped.
Wow. I'm still undecided about getting a Tundra, but this is making my decision much much clearer. The big three may be cheaper, and heavier duty, but not worth it in the long run from what I see.
Stooge is right w/ the education of consumers. But it seems like people are satisified w/ what they are getting. I guess life gets in the way Thats one the biggest reasons I joined this forum... to be educated on my vehicle!
After reading all of that i'm not as angry at toyota (lower case t until they fix the brakes for good) for being stupid with the brakes.
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The big three may be cheaper, and heavier duty, but not worth it in the long run from what I see.
Not so sure I can agree with that. Would one of the definitions of heavy duty mean that it should hold up better under lighter duty?? If thats the case...the Tundra is the heavy duty IMO!
I was really suprised with gm, I honestly thought dodge would be at the bottom
wonder how the hemi will last.....
I am not a fan of GM...but in all fairness go back and look at
the Ford and Dodge numbers when their trucks first came out
after a major redesign. It is a different story if you look at the
'97 Ford or the '94 Dodge. I am sure all vehicles have more
bugs to work out in the first couple of years following major
changes or the introduction of a completely new vehicle. As
for Dodge's Hemi...I am sure it will do as well as any other
engine. It and all other Dodge engines is still based on the
LA series of light weight small blocks. It is not really a totally
new design. I do give GM credit for offering a lot of engine
choices including 2 big block gasoline V8s.
When my brother purchased his Ford, his shocks/struts went out at 18k miles. He took it back to the dealership several times and they gave him the run-a-round (alignment, brakes, tires, etc). Finally, he ended up taking it to PepBoys and the mechanic told him that Ford was putting cheap struts on their vehicles because they've had several customers coming in with the same complaint.
Furthermore, a mechanic friend of mine said that Ford's tranny is an out-dated design (not strong enough to handle the increasing Hp) and tends to give out shortly after 100k miles. Also, this guy just recently purchased a '04 and his tranny went out while he was hauling a winabego(spelling?). While as for Chevy and Dodge, they tend to have electrical problems (among others).
Although, what really did it for me is the crash test videos...can't risk my life at only 40mph. And I still think Toyota's fit and finish is much better than the big 3 dispite their "cost cutting ventures" over the last decade. You can't really blame Toyota cause everyone else is doing the same thing. It really depends on how they put it all together...and I still think Toyota does a better job of this. Just my 2 cents.
This is exactly the stuff I'm talkin about. My neighbor has a 2001 dodge ram 1500 with the v8. He had less than 30,000 miles on it, around 22k to be exact, and the darn thing started missing. He took it to the dealer and they told him to replace the spark plugs. They said the spark plugs aren't covered under warrentee because it is normal maintance. Dodge had put the cheapest knock off brand plugs in the truck to cut costs. This is pathetic. Why can't they spend 8 bucks on some champion sparkplugs??
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Originally Posted by Bukwheat
When my brother purchased his Ford, his shocks/struts went out at 18k miles. He took it back to the dealership several times and they gave him the run-a-round (alignment, brakes, tires, etc). Finally, he ended up taking it to PepBoys and the mechanic told him that Ford was putting cheap struts on their vehicles because they've had several customers coming in with the same complaint.
Furthermore, a mechanic friend of mine said that Ford's tranny is an out-dated design (not strong enough to handle the increasing Hp) and tends to give out shortly after 100k miles. Also, this guy just recently purchased a '04 and his tranny went out while he was hauling a winabego(spelling?). While as for Chevy and Dodge, they tend to have electrical problems (among others).
Although, what really did it for me is the crash test videos...can't risk my life at only 40mph. And I still think Toyota's fit and finish is much better than the big 3 dispite their "cost cutting ventures" over the last decade. You can't really blame Toyota cause everyone else is doing the same thing. It really depends on how they put it all together...and I still think Toyota does a better job of this. Just my 2 cents.
I love reading this stuff. It validates the great choice we all made by purchacing a toyota. The tundra my not be perfect and could be better, but it is certinly the best truck out there.
I drive a 1500 chevy at work and it is a total POS. The first week we had it the tailgate handle fell off. the interior is very uncomfortable. The drivers seat has several adjustments and is still impossible to get comfy.
Of course these are minor gripes (ie loose antena, rattleing windows, ect), but the one that got my attention was at 28,000 miles the engine started to knock. It went back to the dealer ( not right away, they said it was no rush!), and their diagnosis was a bad belt tentioner. The knock was still heard and they now say it is a "normal" sound. Anyone who hears this truck comments on the sound. I told the boss he should have bought a Tundra!!!
Tundra TSB's compared with Big 3 TSB's L@@K!
Education!
Thats one the biggest reasons I joined this forum... to be educated on my vehicle!
Love these threads
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