Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

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    Default Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    I took my vehicle to Firestone for a trans flush last year, and they told me they won't use anything but the mfg recommended fluid, which is something like $20 a bottle or a ridiculous amount. Does anyone know if this is necessary and can it be done with using aftermarket fluid? It seems like a hassle to do the change myself so I was looking for a shop that had the machine but if they were charging me for the factory fluid then it is not cost effective to do anymore.

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    Default Re: Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    I'm assuming from your forum name that you have a 2005 Tundra V8. This model year utilizes the Aisin-Warner A750X transmission. This transmission requires the use of the 'highly friction-modified', i.e. Toyota World Standard ("WS") ATF. The only aftermarket supplier that I know that makes an ATF compatible with this specification is Amsoil.

    PM TSer Tundradrenalin. He's an Amsoil distributor and can help you out, maybe save you some $$$.

    Here's Aisin WS ATF for sale at $6.50qt: http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index...d-atf-0ws.html. You've got to buy it in bulk (12-16 quarts) to make the minimum shipping charges worth it.
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    Last edited by Jonesy; 09-20-2012 at 05:17 PM.
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    Getting the fluid level right is the tricky part, make sure you measure what you take out. Or see what your dealer charges, mine did the 4 quart swap for $50.

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    Default Re: Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    Um, the transmission has an overflow valve on the bottom of the pan, you unscrew it and start filling your transmission and once it gets to the right level it comes out and its at the right level. Nothing tricky to it.


    Also my service manual says that transmission pan and drain removal takes 1.3L.

    2. TRANSMISSION PAN FILL
    (a) Remove the refill plug and overflow plug.
    (b) Fill the transmission through the refill hole until fluid begins
    to trickle out of the overflow tube.
    (c) Reinstall the overflow plug.


    FLUID LEVEL CHECK
    NOTICE:
    The fluid temperature must be between 46C (115F) and
    56C (130F) to check the fluid level.
    (a) Remove the overflow plug with the engine idling.
    (b) Check that the fluid comes out of the overflow tube.
    If fluid does not come out, proceed to step 7.
    If fluid comes out, wait until the over−flow slows to a trickle and
    proceed to step 8.
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    Default Re: Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterPX View Post
    Or see what your dealer charges, mine did the 4 quart swap for $50.
    that's a good price considering the fluid alone will run about $40 +/-.
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    Default Re: Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    The fluid temperature must be between 46C (115F) and
    56C (130F) to check the fluid level.

    The only thing that has ever concerned me about this process is how do you determine the temperature of your fluid, while checking??
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    Quote Originally Posted by TundraDad1 View Post
    The fluid temperature must be between 46C (115F) and
    56C (130F) to check the fluid level.

    The only thing that has ever concerned me about this process is how do you determine the temperature of your fluid, while checking??
    10-15 minutes of driving usually does it. If you really want to be accurate, I suggest the Torque Pro app.
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    Default Re: Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    Valvoline Maxlife gets a lot of rave reviews. I haven't used it, but it does state it is compatible with the WS.
    http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife_atf.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tones View Post
    Valvoline Maxlife gets a lot of rave reviews. I haven't used it, but it does state it is compatible with the WS.
    http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife_atf.pdf
    Note that it states that it is compatible with T-III and T-IV ATF as well. WS and these previous formulations are not compatible, so the characteristics of this ATF cannot work in both. I'm guessing that the low-viscosity requirements of the WS spec will not be met with this Valvoline ATF.
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    Default Re: Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    Maxlife is a full synthetic fluid and others have reported great success with it, including WS applications. It should work fine.
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    Default Re: Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    $20 is bogus.

    Should be more like this for the OEM stuff. If you PM me I can tell you what dealer to order it from. I use him for all my Toyota parts.

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    Default Re: Transmission Flush at 100K - need to use Toyota Fluid?

    Here's a link to purchase WS ATF online. It's listed at $6.50/qt before shipping. I suggest buying 12 quarts at a time to save on shipping.
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