I'm going to move this thread from the Q&A Forum to the main Toyota Tundra Forum for better exposure and replies.
Also I merged the threads "Tundra 02-04 Recall, May 17th 05" by DBM and "Recall question" by illinois524 with "Safety Recall!" so that it does not get overlooked.
Many thanks for posting this information!
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How about making this a sticky?
As requested this is now a "Sticky Thread".
Dan
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I am one of the six that prompted this recall. I have an unusual situation in that I put excessive amounts of miles on my 2002 Tundra Limited. I have 270,000 miles on it. I do about 100,000 miles per year. I have a courier business and am on the road 7 days a week. At 190,000 miles my RF wheel assembly came off completely and rolled underneath the truck. The ball joint had snapped off completely. Fortunately I was just pulling away from the traffic light and was doing maybe 15mph and I was okay. It was repaired for $2200 and I wrote it off as a freak accident. Well, at 250,000 miles I am pulling in my driveway and the LF wheel does the same thing. Ball joint snaps and the wheel assembly comes off an I my wheel is jammed up in the wheel well. Again, I am fortunate in that I was doing maybe 10mph. $1800 dollars later and I am on my way. I was giving Toyota time to resolve this as the dealer said to give him time to run it through the system before I persued this legally. I am anxious to see what my letter will say from Toyota. This recall is not petty so pay attention to it. If you need any info e-mail me. I have pics of the first failure as well. BTW there was NO warning of impending failure. I was not "drifting" an there was no stiff steering. Any help you folks can provide would be greatly appreciated. Not really sure how to pursue all this, I am putting alot of faith in Toyota doing the right thing. Thanks!
I see mention of it being related to ball joints. Now this all makes sense. I bought my '03 Tundra used in February and the guy that had it had all the work done at the dealership. I asked for the service records and went through them with a service writer. I asked him about every service that was done. About 15k miles ago they did a "ball joint recovery." I asked what that was and he said it was something Toyota was doing as part of a campaign to research the ball joints. It would seem that this is related to the recall and that, inadvertantly, I may have had the recall already done although I'll need to check. It certainly looks as though they've been doing their research on this one.
I am one of the six that prompted this recall. I have an unusual situation in that I put excessive amounts of miles on my 2002 Tundra Limited. I have 270,000 miles on it. I do about 100,000 miles per year. I have a courier business and am on the road 7 days a week. At 190,000 miles my RF wheel assembly came off completely and rolled underneath the truck. The ball joint had snapped off completely. Fortunately I was just pulling away from the traffic light and was doing maybe 15mph and I was okay. It was repaired for $2200 and I wrote it off as a freak accident. Well, at 250,000 miles I am pulling in my driveway and the LF wheel does the same thing. Ball joint snaps and the wheel assembly comes off an I my wheel is jammed up in the wheel well. Again, I am fortunate in that I was doing maybe 10mph. $1800 dollars later and I am on my way. I was giving Toyota time to resolve this as the dealer said to give him time to run it through the system before I persued this legally. I am anxious to see what my letter will say from Toyota. This recall is not petty so pay attention to it. If you need any info e-mail me. I have pics of the first failure as well. BTW there was NO warning of impending failure. I was not "drifting" an there was no stiff steering. Any help you folks can provide would be greatly appreciated. Not really sure how to pursue all this, I am putting alot of faith in Toyota doing the right thing. Thanks!
OHMIGOD, I would have sold the vehicle after the first one! that it happened a second time is beyone me! Glad that you are okay!
Can you be more specific about your failure:
1. Was it the upper or lower ball joint?
2. What kind of Tundra do you have (AC, V6) etc?
3. How much weight do you normally haul?
4. What has Toyota done in the way of remuneration for your costs?
I just replaced my upper balljoints at around 130K, because my front felt loose and will likely be doing the lowers next. Not because of the recall, just because.
I think I can speak for everyone here when I say I'd love to see some pictures.
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I am one of the six that prompted this recall. I have an unusual situation in that I put excessive amounts of miles on my 2002 Tundra Limited. I have 270,000 miles on it. I do about 100,000 miles per year. I have a courier business and am on the road 7 days a week. At 190,000 miles my RF wheel assembly came off completely and rolled underneath the truck. The ball joint had snapped off completely. Fortunately I was just pulling away from the traffic light and was doing maybe 15mph and I was okay. It was repaired for $2200 and I wrote it off as a freak accident. Well, at 250,000 miles I am pulling in my driveway and the LF wheel does the same thing. Ball joint snaps and the wheel assembly comes off an I my wheel is jammed up in the wheel well. Again, I am fortunate in that I was doing maybe 10mph. $1800 dollars later and I am on my way. I was giving Toyota time to resolve this as the dealer said to give him time to run it through the system before I persued this legally. I am anxious to see what my letter will say from Toyota. This recall is not petty so pay attention to it. If you need any info e-mail me. I have pics of the first failure as well. BTW there was NO warning of impending failure. I was not "drifting" an there was no stiff steering. Any help you folks can provide would be greatly appreciated. Not really sure how to pursue all this, I am putting alot of faith in Toyota doing the right thing. Thanks!
Wow that's a hell of alot of driving! With that kind of driving I wouldn't be suprised they didn't fail sooner of wear and tare! Gezzz!
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At least Toyota is taking some initiative. My wife's windshield wiper assembly crapped out on an 02 Chev Impala. A friend at the dealership said they have a bulletin out on this due to the severity of the problem. I Made a claim with GM and they refused to replace anything since the vehicle wasn't under warranty. I then went to the dealership to order the kit and the parts guy sez all you need is the clutch. I said you sure, he sez we've sold 100's of these, they fail all the time. Due to the price, I bought a complete assembly from a junk yard for $25. I then phoned GM again on my original complaint advising this was a safety issue. They advised unless the National Transport Board forced them into a recall, they weren't doing anything with it. The car has been a pile of junk since we got it. No wonder GM lost a billion dollars in the first quarter. They suck...
This will be my third Toyota recall. The first was for the head gaskets on an '87 4Runner (I think that was the year) but, heck, that may not have been a recall but something they knew was wrong. The second was the '97 4Runner and the rear suspension and now this one.
1. Was it the upper or lower ball joint?
2. What kind of Tundra do you have (AC, V6) etc?
3. How much weight do you normally haul?
4. What has Toyota done in the way of remuneration for your costs?
I just replaced my upper balljoints at around 130K, because my front felt loose and will likely be doing the lowers next. Not because of the recall, just because.
I think I can speak for everyone here when I say I'd love to see some pictures.
I can't really sell the truck. Who would buy one with 270,000 miles on it anyway? I still owe $13,000 on it and I don't think I could get that for it. To answer your questions: RF was the upper ball snapping off while the LF was the "socket" shattering resulting in the upper ball dislocating. MY Tundra is a Limited 4x4 loaded with everything (TRD).The weight I pull varies. I deliver lost luggage for the airlines and sometimes I have a full bed of bags and other days I am empty. 75% of my miles are highway and I have used 4wd maybe 10 times. Toyota has not paid for any of the costs of repair but with the recall I think that will change. I have not persued them vigerously since the service manager said to give them some time to send this through Toyota. I guess this is Toyotas response which I trust will accelerate my reimbursement. I will work on getting some pics posted. Check back in a bit
RF was the upper ball snapping off while the LF was the "socket" shattering resulting in the upper ball dislocating.
That 'socket' is part of the spindle, and Toyota is saying that they'll replace the balljoints themselves?!?!? It doesn't sound like replacing the balljoint would have cured the problem in your case and the actual repair may aggravate it. The act of pressing the balljoint into the 'socket' stresses the casting of the spindle and forces the balljoint into the hole that's a 1-2mm too small. If they are replacing the balljoints and the spindles are failing, it's a much bigger issue than we are led to believe. The balljoints may actually be the wrong size or the hole in the spindle (the 'socket')
The two situations you've described are failure in the spindle AND the ball joint. They failed on two separate (but related) components is that correct?
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They will probably let the owners know by mail if their vehicle is affected by the recall. I won't know directly, because of insurance purposes my truck is registered in my Mom's name. My '03 has some drift in the steering, so I suspect it is a possible victim of the recall. I've kind of lost faith in Toyota a bit hearing this recall, but when you compare their track record to that of GM or Ford it is a lot shorter list.
That 'socket' is part of the spindle, and Toyota is saying that they'll replace the balljoints themselves?!?!? It doesn't sound like replacing the balljoint would have cured the problem in your case and the actual repair may aggravate it. The act of pressing the balljoint into the 'socket' stresses the casting of the spindle and forces the balljoint into the whole that's a 1-2mm too small. If they are replacing the balljoints and the spindles are failing, it's a much bigger issue than we are led to believe. The balljoints may actually be the wrong size or the hole in the spindle (the 'socket')
The two situations you've described are failure in the spindle AND the ball joint. They failed on two separate (but related) components is that correct?
I was told they replaced "everything" . I will need to pull the repair invoice and I can list everything they replaced. These were two seperate failures one at 190,000 miles the other at 250,000 miles. Still working on pics.
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