You're doing an oil change on a new Truck?

[Quadude]

That's the question my wife asked today when she saw me changing the oil on my new Tundra with 600 miles on it. So I had to explain it to her.
Breakin, better in the long run, etc.
Some women just don't understand the relationship we guys have with our vehicles.

[wylcat]

well it has been my experience that most women have this view of "men and their cars" (this was an e-mail sent to me by my aunt)
>Oil Change instructions for
>Women:
>
>1) Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches 3000 miles since the
>last oil change.
>
>2) Drink a cup of coffee.
>
>3) 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained
>vehicle.
>
>
>Money spent:
>
>Oil Change $20.00
>
>Coffee $1.00
>
>Total $21.00
>
>================================================= =========
>
>
>Oil Change instructions for Men:
>
>1) Wait until Saturday, drive to auto parts store and
>buy a case of oil, filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner and a scented tree,
>write a check for $50.00.
>
>2) Stop by 7 - 11 and buy a case of beer, write a check for $20, drive
>home.
>
>3) Open a beer and drink it.
>
>4) Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack stands.
>
>5) Find jack stands under kid's pedal car.
>
>6) In frustration, open another beer and drink it.
>
>7) Place drain pan under engine.
>
>8) Look for 9/16 box end wrench.
>
>9) Give up and use crescent wrench.
>
>10) Unscrew drain plug.
>
>11) Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil: splash hot oil on you in process.
>Cuss.
>
>12) Crawl out from under car to wipe hot oil off of face and arms. Throw
>kitty litter on spilled oil.
>
>13) Have another beer while watching oil drain.
>
>14) Spend 30 minutes looking for oil filter wrench.
>
>15) Give up; crawl under car and hammer a screwdriver through oil filter
>and twist off.
>
>16) Crawl out from under car with dripping oil filter splashing oil
>everywhere from holes. Cleverly hide old oil filter among trash in trash
>can to avoid environmental penalties. Drink a beer.
>
>17) Buddy shows up; finish case of beer with him.
>
>Decide to finish oil change tomorrow so you can go see his new garage
>door opener.
>
>18) Sunday: Skip church because "I gotta finish the oil
>change." Drag pan full of old oil out from underneath car. Cleverly
>dump oil in hole in back yard instead of taking it back to Kragen to
>recycle.
>
>19) Throw kitty litter on oil spilled during step 18.
>
>20) Beer? No, drank it all yesterday.
>
>21) Walk to 7-11; buy beer.
>
>22) Install new oil filter making sure to apply a thin coat of oil to
>gasket surface.
>
>23) Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine.
>
>24) Remember drain plug from step 11.
>
>25) Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan.
>
>26) Remember that the used oil is buried in a hole in the back yard,
>along with drain plug.
>
>27) Drink beer.
>
>28) Shovel out hole and sift oily mud for drain plug. Re-shovel
>oily dirt into hole. Steal sand from kids sandbox to cleverly cover oily
>patch of ground and avoid environmental penalties. Wash drain plug in
>lawnmower gas.
>
>29) Discover that first quart of fresh oil is now on the floor. Throw
>kitty litter on oil spill.
>
>30) Drink beer.
>
>31) Crawl under car getting kitty litter into eyes. Wipe eyes with
>oily rag used to clean drain plug. Slip with stupid crescent wrench
>tightening drain plug and bang knuckles on frame.
>
>32) Bang head on floorboards in reaction to step 31.
>
>33) Begin cussing fit.
>
>34) Throw stupid crescent wrench.
>
>35) Cuss for additional 10 minutes because wrench hit bowling trophy.
>
>
>36) Beer.
>
>37) Clean up hands and forehead and bandage as required t o stop blood
>flow.
>
>38) Beer.
>
>39) Beer.
>
>40) Dump in five fresh quarts of oil.
>
>41) Beer.
>
>42) Lower car from jack stands.
>
>43) Accidentally crush remaining case of new motor oil.
>
>44) Move car back to apply more kitty litter to fresh oil spilled during
>steps 23 - 43.
>
>45) Beer.
>
>46) Test drive car.
>
>47) Get pulled over: arrested for driving under the influence.
>
>48) Car gets impounded.
>
>49) Call loving wife, make bail.
>
>50) 12 hours later, get car from impound yard.
>
>
>Money spent:
>
>
>Parts $50.00
>
>DUI $2500.00
>
>Impound fee $75.00
>
>Bail $1500.00
>
>Beer $40.00
>
>Total - - $4,165.00
>
>
>But you know the job was done
>right!
>
>
>SEND THIS TO WOMEN WHO NEED A LAUGH...... AND TO MEN
>YOU THINK CAN
>
>HANDLE IT.....

[Hugemoose]

Hahahahahaha. That is too good. I can honestly see most men doing all of this just so we don't have to worry about it at a jiffy lube only to finish the job later "the right way". Maybe not to those extremes......but most of it ........especially the beer!!

Awesome post!!

[Crx722]

Agreed. I got a good laugh throughout that post

[gjsumm]

Hey,who has the video camera in my garage. Very funny.

[jlift]

Thoroughly enjoyed it.....extremely funny. of course we guys are really not like that. i shared this with other people.

[Hugemoose]

Originally Posted by jlift

Thoroughly enjoyed it.....extremely funny. of course we guys are really not like that. i shared this with other people.

That is true. But the kind of guys on this site rather wait for every last drop of old oil to come out of their engine before we put our blessed Mobile 1 in . Well.......at least I do

[FiveOh]

Originally Posted by Quadude

That's the question my wife asked today when she saw me changing the oil on my new Tundra with 600 miles on it. So I had to explain it to her.
Breakin, better in the long run, etc.
Some women just don't understand the relationship we guys have with our vehicles.

I changed mine at 100mi with fresh dino oil, then again at 1900 with syn. Anything that is going to come loose in a new engine (burs, shavings, sealant, etc) is going to do so right away. There's really no sense in letting it stay in there for thousands of miles. Very very cheap insurance to get some fresh oil in there ASAP.

[cookiemech]

Well, this thread is amusing, but seriously, have you ever found shavings or anything like that in used oil from a new Toyota?

I used to do something like this, but have come around to the way of thinking that if you're planning to change to synthetic oil, it's best to leave the original oil in the engine for the specified time or mileage, then switch to Mobil 1. After the switch to synthetic oil, very little engine wear occurs. That sounds pretty good, but you do want the engine to "break in". The original oil (which is of very good quality) will permit break-in to occur.

I've followed this program for several new Toyotas; I've never seen any particles of any sort in the oil at 5000 miles. Then I put the Mobil 1 in and follow 5000 mile change intervals. At 100,000 miles, the oil I change looks and feels just as good as that which I changed at 10,000 miles (I'm just trying to say that the engine is happy with this plan; no discernible wear, good performance in every way).

[confederate2]

Originally Posted by wylcat

well it has been my experience that most women have this view of "men and their cars" (this was an e-mail sent to me by my aunt)
>Oil Change instructions for
>Women:
>
>1) Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches 3000 miles since the
>last oil change.
>
>2) Drink a cup of coffee.
>
>3) 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained
>vehicle.
>
>
>Money spent:
>
>Oil Change $20.00
>
>Coffee $1.00
>
>Total $21.00
>
>================================================= =========
>
>
>Oil Change instructions for Men:
>
>1) Wait until Saturday, drive to auto parts store and
>buy a case of oil, filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner and a scented tree,
>write a check for $50.00.
>
>2) Stop by 7 - 11 and buy a case of beer, write a check for $20, drive
>home.
>
>3) Open a beer and drink it.
>
>4) Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack stands.
>
>5) Find jack stands under kid's pedal car.
>
>6) In frustration, open another beer and drink it.
>
>7) Place drain pan under engine.
>
>8) Look for 9/16 box end wrench.
>
>9) Give up and use crescent wrench.
>
>10) Unscrew drain plug.
>
>11) Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil: splash hot oil on you in process.
>Cuss.
>
>12) Crawl out from under car to wipe hot oil off of face and arms. Throw
>kitty litter on spilled oil.
>
>13) Have another beer while watching oil drain.
>
>14) Spend 30 minutes looking for oil filter wrench.
>
>15) Give up; crawl under car and hammer a screwdriver through oil filter
>and twist off.
>
>16) Crawl out from under car with dripping oil filter splashing oil
>everywhere from holes. Cleverly hide old oil filter among trash in trash
>can to avoid environmental penalties. Drink a beer.
>
>17) Buddy shows up; finish case of beer with him.
>
>Decide to finish oil change tomorrow so you can go see his new garage
>door opener.
>
>18) Sunday: Skip church because "I gotta finish the oil
>change." Drag pan full of old oil out from underneath car. Cleverly
>dump oil in hole in back yard instead of taking it back to Kragen to
>recycle.
>
>19) Throw kitty litter on oil spilled during step 18.
>
>20) Beer? No, drank it all yesterday.
>
>21) Walk to 7-11; buy beer.
>
>22) Install new oil filter making sure to apply a thin coat of oil to
>gasket surface.
>
>23) Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine.
>
>24) Remember drain plug from step 11.
>
>25) Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan.
>
>26) Remember that the used oil is buried in a hole in the back yard,
>along with drain plug.
>
>27) Drink beer.
>
>28) Shovel out hole and sift oily mud for drain plug. Re-shovel
>oily dirt into hole. Steal sand from kids sandbox to cleverly cover oily
>patch of ground and avoid environmental penalties. Wash drain plug in
>lawnmower gas.
>
>29) Discover that first quart of fresh oil is now on the floor. Throw
>kitty litter on oil spill.
>
>30) Drink beer.
>
>31) Crawl under car getting kitty litter into eyes. Wipe eyes with
>oily rag used to clean drain plug. Slip with stupid crescent wrench
>tightening drain plug and bang knuckles on frame.
>
>32) Bang head on floorboards in reaction to step 31.
>
>33) Begin cussing fit.
>
>34) Throw stupid crescent wrench.
>
>35) Cuss for additional 10 minutes because wrench hit bowling trophy.
>
>
>36) Beer.
>
>37) Clean up hands and forehead and bandage as required t o stop blood
>flow.
>
>38) Beer.
>
>39) Beer.
>
>40) Dump in five fresh quarts of oil.
>
>41) Beer.
>
>42) Lower car from jack stands.
>
>43) Accidentally crush remaining case of new motor oil.
>
>44) Move car back to apply more kitty litter to fresh oil spilled during
>steps 23 - 43.
>
>45) Beer.
>
>46) Test drive car.
>
>47) Get pulled over: arrested for driving under the influence.
>
>48) Car gets impounded.
>
>49) Call loving wife, make bail.
>
>50) 12 hours later, get car from impound yard.
>
>
>Money spent:
>
>
>Parts $50.00
>
>DUI $2500.00
>
>Impound fee $75.00
>
>Bail $1500.00
>
>Beer $40.00
>
>Total - - $4,165.00
>
>
>But you know the job was done
>right!
>
>
>SEND THIS TO WOMEN WHO NEED A LAUGH...... AND TO MEN
>YOU THINK CAN
>
>HANDLE IT.....

Without a doubt one of the funniest dang things I have ever read on the internet. Thanks for sharing.

[spleck]

Originally Posted by cookiemech

After the switch to synthetic oil, very little engine wear occurs.

I've never subscribed to that theory. My understanding was that synthetic oil simply lasts longer since it resists thermal breakdown and shearing better. By that reasoning its only better for intense or high mileage use. Of course, I use synthetic since I tend to drive fairly hard, and I usually go 3000-5000 miles between oil changes. But fresh dino and synthetic oil of the same viscosity shouldn't prevent wear any differently.

[skinny2]

Originally Posted by cookiemech

I've never seen any particles of any sort in the oil at 5000 miles.

That's because the particles are in the filter, exactly where they should be. To think these shavings are floating around in the engine is craziness. The only time I've ever seen shavings in a new engine is stuck to the oil plug magnet, which just catches them before they get back to the filter. The only advantage I see to early first oil changes is removing the filter that could become plugged due to excess break-in material. But frankly, if you're filter is plugged in 5k miles your engine is not going to last long anyway.

[FiveOh]

Originally Posted by spleck

I've never subscribed to that theory. My understanding was that synthetic oil simply lasts longer since it resists thermal breakdown and shearing better. By that reasoning its only better for intense or high mileage use. Of course, I use synthetic since I tend to drive fairly hard, and I usually go 3000-5000 miles between oil changes. But fresh dino and synthetic oil of the same viscosity shouldn't prevent wear any differently.

You should read some oil white papers, there are definitely differences in wear.

[cookiemech]

Well, I've had high mileage engines apart (car and motorcycle), some of which used conventional oil and some of which used synthetic. The ones using synthetic oil were much cleaner and showed less wear (bearings and cam lobes) than the others. Not scientific evidence, but good enough for me.

Also, feel conventional oil (after 3000 miles) between your thumb and finger. Do the same with synthetic after 5000 miles. The conventional oil is like dirty water, and the synthetic oil is still very slippery.

[spleck]

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