I bought my tundra in Dec of 02 and knew the mileage would not be up to the standards of my 4banger celica GT, however I did not expect the gas prices to increase over 200% in the upcoming three years. It might be ignorance but I can see how you can justify that kind of increase, I know we had the hurricanes destroy some refinaries, an increase in demand with the combination of a decrease in supply. But if you ask me the gas companies are just greedy SOB that will suck every dime out of the consumers that they can. Gas has already gone over $3 what to stop the gas companies to raise prices over $4. These increases are not only effecting the travel industry but all consumer markets as that increase in gas prices gets added to the cost of our every day consumer products like food, clothing, household products and etc.
Oh, BTW the prices provided by the EPA are averages on flat level ground, with the outside factors and to me is not an accurate tally of the measurements you will actually get. I have an 03 Tundra sitting on 33" all terrains and feel good about the 15mpg I get driving in the cities.
Just my .02
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2.5 Camburg C/O w/ King 14" 600lb springs, Skidrow Automotive Skidplate
285x75x16 Goodyear Wrangler ATS, 16x8 Ivan Stewart Wheels
4.30 ring and pinion gears, Stock exhaust w/ Magnaflow 18" muffler, TrueFlow filter, Superlift TruSpeed Cosmetic modifications
Debadged, De-decaled and De-labeled sun visors
Pace Edwards Retractable Cover, Toyota Sport Grille
TRD radiator cap, TRD oil cap
RS 3200 Plus Upgrade Modification wishlist
TRD or JBA titanium headers
JBA or possible custom y-pipe
TRD supercharger
IPT valve body mod
Custom Offroad Bumper
Demello offroad sliders
rear disc conversion
Moonroof and power sliding rear window
Where does it ever end
This is just a rant thread - I'm personally tired of everyone saying "Oh no, gas is $3 a gallon, I'm going to have to trade in my truck" or "How can I increase performance AND mileage in my Tundra"
Bottom line is, you bought a Tundra, it's a truck, trucks do not get mileage on par with cars. I can appreciate folks trying to eek out every last ounce of fuel savings, but the best way to do this is not through truck modifications, but through changing your driving habits. Either cutting down on the trips you take, or going easy on the accelerator. Just about anything else is going to eat up the potential savings in the cost of the mod/time to implement the mod.
Trading the truck is just as bad of an idea. Cars are horrible investments, if your transportation is paid for, it will be almost impossible to recoup the cost of a new vehicle in fuel savings, esp. once insurance and maintenance (the whole "beater" idea) is taken into consideration.
So bottom line, a truck is a truck, don't buy one expecting high mileage, to get high mileage you would sacrifice what makes a truck worth having - strength, payload, durability etc. etc.
Just my .02
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Don't buy a truck with/expecting high mileage, don't buy "low fat" snackwell cookies expecting them to taste like Oreos, and for Pete's sake, don't buy non-alcoholic beer, all defeat the purpose/benefit of the original and in the end - comparatively speaking, suck.
Great post!!!! I knew the mileage wasn't going to be great when I bought the 03' and then the 05'. I get right at what most I talk to (outside TS) which is around 13 mpg in town (no highway at all), 17 - 18 (max) on the highway (no intown), and 14-15 (max) with mixed driving. However, I read in total amazement about some of the mpg's reported in some of the forums which is WAY higher than what I experience. I now have turned 10K and have seen very little improvement in mpg since I drove off the dealer's lot (1 mile on the odometer). I just fill up and enjoy the ride!
This is just a rant thread - I'm personally tired of everyone saying "Oh no, gas is $3 a gallon, I'm going to have to trade in my truck" or "How can I increase performance AND mileage in my Tundra"
Bottom line is, you bought a Tundra, it's a truck, trucks do not get mileage on par with cars. I can appreciate folks trying to eek out every last ounce of fuel savings, but the best way to do this is not through truck modifications, but through changing your driving habits. Either cutting down on the trips you take, or going easy on the accelerator. Just about anything else is going to eat up the potential savings in the cost of the mod/time to implement the mod.
Trading the truck is just as bad of an idea. Cars are horrible investments, if your transportation is paid for, it will be almost impossible to recoup the cost of a new vehicle in fuel savings, esp. once insurance and maintenance (the whole "beater" idea) is taken into consideration.
So bottom line, a truck is a truck, don't buy one expecting high mileage, to get high mileage you would sacrifice what makes a truck worth having - strength, payload, durability etc. etc.
Just my .02
In conclusion
Don't buy a truck with/expecting high mileage, don't buy "low fat" snackwell cookies expecting them to taste like Oreos, and for Pete's sake, don't buy non-alcoholic beer, all defeat the purpose/benefit of the original and in the end - comparatively speaking, suck.
Hey, why don't you try owning a truck when gas is low then having to contend with the f'ed up goverment raising it while living on a fixed income like $10 or so an hour? Ever try that on for size? It ain't easy.
Yeah, I can afford gas because I live at home with my parents and have few expenses for now. There are people out there who have trucks as their ONLY source of transportation who can't afford gas. Thankfully I'm not in that bind yet, and I keep getting raises and promotions at work despite recent medical bills piling up. I'm lucky to afford it as it is and I'll do so as long as I can with some extra for modifications from bonuses and drawings at work.
Don't be so obtuse in thinking just because someone has a truck they can afford the gas automatically. Yes, gas prices are going to go up, but they are artificially inflated right now with no real reason. Period. We have an idiot for a president who isn't and won't listen to the people who elected him. Thank heavens he'll be gone in a couple of years. I hope we don't get John McCain or Hillary Clinton in his place. Neither one is a good choice.
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My 2000 is averaging around 16 in town and 21 on the road consistantly. I have to have a truck with a V8 to tow with and I knew that when I bought it and the dang thing is paid for, cheaper tag and cheaper insurance than a new car! It would take a LOT of driving the car to offset the gas mileage on my truck even if it goes to 4 bucks a gallong. Didnt say I would like it but Im still ahead on the paid for Tundra. I have a spare (94 Sentra) that I drive sometimes but still find myself driving my gas guzzling Tundra most of the time because, well, its a Tundra!
Hey, why don't you try owning a truck when gas is low then having to contend with the f'ed up goverment raising it while living on a fixed income like $10 or so an hour? Ever try that on for size? It ain't easy.
Yeah, I can afford gas because I live at home with my parents and have few expenses. There are people out there who have trucks as their ONLY source of transportation who can't afford gas now. Thankfully I'm not in that bind yet, and I keep getting raises and promotions at work. I'm lucky to afford it as it is and I'll do so as long as I can with some extra for modifications from bonuses and drawings at work.
Don't be so obtuse in thinking just because someone has a truck they can afford the gas automatically. Yes, gas prices are going to go up, but they are artificially inflated right now with no real reason. Period. We have an idiot for a president who isn't and won't listen to the people who elected him. Thank heavens he'll be gone in a couple of years. I hope we don't get John McCain or Hillary Clinton in his place. Neither one is a good choice.
Back to topic 2008 is going to be an interesting election maybe I'll Run since I am a so called ignorant liberal from the West (Please) at least the West was Won (LOL)...
Yeah, and my company was the number one company... ahh Citigroup. CitiCards, the division I work for is an awesome company to work with. They give back to their employees, whereas some (wait, ALL) gas companies don't. I don't buy gas from Exxon/Mobil or Texaco/Shell. I buy from Conoco or Costco.
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Back to topic 2008 is going to be an interesting election maybe I'll Run since I am a so called ignorant liberal from the West (Please) at least the West was Won (LOL)...
Has nothing to do with "North vs South." Thats a chip that you have on your shoulder,not I.You're the one that constantly takes shots at people with all your "facts"( thats using that term loosely).I've been all over the United States (including Cali worked their for 2 years) and have met many fine,and hateful people from ALL States including my own.Yeah, I love it that the people from California move here,that means jobs are coming here (mass exodus) ala Nissan Headquarters.
You've took shots at conservatives,and Southernors,but you don't like it when the table has been turned.Cry me a river little man....
Its cool you're running for election,but will you ride the short bus on your election tour?
I'm more worried about the retard on the motorcycle.
Thats funny, sadly it's true i am worried about morons on bikes does not mean every biker is a moron . Back on topic, i say buy hybrids move to San Fran, like on the southpark cartoon, your kids can do drugs and you can smell and taste your liberal farts and feel above everyone else. I like that episode funny as hell.
Thats funny, sadly it's true i am worried about morons on bikes does not mean every biker is a moron . Back on topic, i say buy hybrids move to San Fran, like on the southpark cartoon, your kids can do drugs and you can smell and taste your liberal farts and feel above everyone else. I like that episode funny as hell.
cheers morepower
Does buying a Hybrid really going to help this madder .
Take for example the Toyota Highlander and the pruis are around 36 to 38k on the asking price and no one cared to mention the battery replacement of around 4 to 5k on replacement which last 5 to 10 year's.Hybrid are costly to buy yet it will take a wile to recope your money but you can write this off your taxes for One year ..
In the news yesterday they were mentioning someone designed a hybrid sport bike that goes 80 miles per gallon that's pretty sweet but it's not going to get everybody out of the huge SUV to ride together Bigger vs small urge
The SOUTH will rise again boys. Don't get rid of your confederate money yet!
You are right V8Georgia, it is the same situation here in Houston. The roads are behind plus we have many idiot driver's that prefer not to carry insurance. The rest of us poor suckers have to foot that bill too, BUT there are communities here that are starting to impound those cars that are involved in accidents and have NO insurance. I say, "it is about time". I am sick and tired of paying for the ones that refuse to do the right and decent thing in this country.
I am wondering if you would have to replace the batteries, rotors, and motor later down the road with hybrids. Am I thinking straight?
It's Intresting to review Maybe somebody that works on Hybrids would aneswer that question for us . Wile hybrids are the wave of the future right now possibly they will provide a battery with a lifetime feature that doesnt break down...
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(Please) at least the West was Won (LOL)...
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