This is just a rant thread - I'm personally tired of everyone saying "Oh no, gas is $3 a gallon, I'm going to have to trade in my truck" or "How can I increase performance AND mileage in my Tundra"
Bottom line is, you bought a Tundra, it's a truck, trucks do not get mileage on par with cars. I can appreciate folks trying to eek out every last ounce of fuel savings, but the best way to do this is not through truck modifications, but through changing your driving habits. Either cutting down on the trips you take, or going easy on the accelerator. Just about anything else is going to eat up the potential savings in the cost of the mod/time to implement the mod.
Trading the truck is just as bad of an idea. Cars are horrible investments, if your transportation is paid for, it will be almost impossible to recoup the cost of a new vehicle in fuel savings, esp. once insurance and maintenance (the whole "beater" idea) is taken into consideration.
So bottom line, a truck is a truck, don't buy one expecting high mileage, to get high mileage you would sacrifice what makes a truck worth having - strength, payload, durability etc. etc.
Just my .02
In conclusion
Don't buy a truck with/expecting high mileage, don't buy "low fat" snackwell cookies expecting them to taste like Oreos, and for Pete's sake, don't buy non-alcoholic beer, all defeat the purpose/benefit of the original and in the end - comparatively speaking, suck.
I agree with you to a point, and in most cases your never going to lose money on the trade in / get a lower MPG car.
However - I have an 05 DC Tundra. Window sticker sad that I should expect 14-17mpg. I have yet to get a tank over 13.5 and that includes two VERY long road trips.
It really pisses me off. Dealer just says it needs to break in but it has 8K miles on it.
I got my 03 used with 40K miles on it. Being my first v8 I knew there was going to be a difference in milege compared to my 22re's (4 cyl.) Well when I got my tundra I was really shocked to average 13.1 mpg. approx 250 miles on a tank. Then I noticed how I was driving it, like it was a 4 banger, floored everywhere. So I slowed down and try to keep the rpm's around 2 grand and now am getting 16 mpg in town and 19 on the freeway! I love it! Who cares if people are honking at you to go faster.... They dont pay for your gas!!!
I tow my tundra with my 84 camry diesel every where I go. A little drop in power and mileage but a lot cheaper than driving the tundra. Haven't had to fill up the tundra in three months. This way I get the best of both worlds. 35 mpg and can haul "stuff" when I need to. Plus, it keeps the bugs off of the bumper. yspert
This is just a rant thread - I'm personally tired of everyone saying "Oh no, gas is $3 a gallon, I'm going to have to trade in my truck" or "How can I increase performance AND mileage in my Tundra"
Bottom line is, you bought a Tundra, it's a truck, trucks do not get mileage on par with cars. I can appreciate folks trying to eek out every last ounce of fuel savings, but the best way to do this is not through truck modifications, but through changing your driving habits. Either cutting down on the trips you take, or going easy on the accelerator. Just about anything else is going to eat up the potential savings in the cost of the mod/time to implement the mod.
Trading the truck is just as bad of an idea. Cars are horrible investments, if your transportation is paid for, it will be almost impossible to recoup the cost of a new vehicle in fuel savings, esp. once insurance and maintenance (the whole "beater" idea) is taken into consideration.
So bottom line, a truck is a truck, don't buy one expecting high mileage, to get high mileage you would sacrifice what makes a truck worth having - strength, payload, durability etc. etc.
Just my .02
In conclusion
Don't buy a truck with/expecting high mileage, don't buy "low fat" snackwell cookies expecting them to taste like Oreos, and for Pete's sake, don't buy non-alcoholic beer, all defeat the purpose/benefit of the original and in the end - comparatively speaking, suck.
IN a since your right trading you truck out you might be paying more in the Long run but the fuel saving alone might be worth it for a few people. I currently travel around 25k a Year so that's a huge savings for me But Im not trading my Tundra in because i need a truck and safety wise Tundra does pretty good..
IN a since your right trading you truck out you might be paying more in the Long run but the fuel saving alone might be worth it for a few people. I currently travel around 25k a Year so that's a huge savings for me But Im not trading my Tundra in because i need a truck and safety wise Tundra does pretty good..
Well the Long run in the end is all that matters, we're all working for retirement, not fun. Point in case, if you know you need to travel 25k a year, and DON'T NEED a truck, then DON'T buy one and complain about the mileage. If you need a truck, then get a truck. The Tundra is over 6k lbs, if you're driving it for work, claim mileage on your income taxes.
What people shouldn't do is trade in an 04/05 they're still making payments on, for a prius with the same payment (for more years than what was left on your original loan) just for mileage. You're taking a double hit on depreciation right as you drive it off the lot, once for the Tundra, and again for the Prius. Add to that, the fuel savings of a hybrid are offset by the higher initial cost, plus the great unknown of maintenance after the warranty runs out You might feel better weekly when filling up your tank, but long term total cost of ownership, it doesn't make sense.
Me, I love my cars, both suck gas, but I knew that going in. If gas hits $5 a gallon, I'll buy a motorcycle.
I think "Beaters" are a great investment for a family person. Families tend you go thru cars and the wise thing to do is keep a car as long as possible. People tend to want to buy new whenever they need a car. That is the best way to waste money. A family needs 2 cars so make the second car a reliable beater. My beater is a 92 Nissan 240sx. Cost me $1500. Installed a set of brakes and some struts. It's a great car. I have put over 30K miles on it in the last couple years. When I bring the truck in for service my beater is ready. Want to drive 300miles to Denver and the beater is ready. Need to haul a load, go to a jobsite, etc. I take the Tundra. It's all in how you do the beater. Having 3 cars with only two drivers is a waste. But make your second car a good reliable cheap car and your golden. One of these days I will do that engine swap in the beater and really get to enjoy the car. My wife and I jokingly call the Tundra "Porky" and the 240 "zippy". It just seems to fit.
Well the Long run in the end is all that matters, we're all working for retirement, not fun. Point in case, if you know you need to travel 25k a year, and DON'T NEED a truck, then DON'T buy one and complain about the mileage. If you need a truck, then get a truck. The Tundra is over 6k lbs, if you're driving it for work, claim mileage on your income taxes.
What people shouldn't do is trade in an 04/05 they're still making payments on, for a prius with the same payment (for more years than what was left on your original loan) just for mileage. You're taking a double hit on depreciation right as you drive it off the lot, once for the Tundra, and again for the Prius. Add to that, the fuel savings of a hybrid are offset by the higher initial cost, plus the great unknown of maintenance after the warranty runs out You might feel better weekly when filling up your tank, but long term total cost of ownership, it doesn't make sense.
Me, I love my cars, both suck gas, but I knew that going in. If gas hits $5 a gallon, I'll buy a motorcycle.
Motoorcycle
If Gas get's the way that's a good ideal But safety wise I am not risking my Life IN BUmm F??? Georgia to be killed from Some Moron that can't drive..
This is just a rant thread - I'm personally tired of everyone saying "Oh no, gas is $3 a gallon, I'm going to have to trade in my truck" or "How can I increase performance AND mileage in my Tundra"
Bottom line is, you bought a Tundra, it's a truck, trucks do not get mileage on par with cars. I can appreciate folks trying to eek out every last ounce of fuel savings, but the best way to do this is not through truck modifications, but through changing your driving habits. Either cutting down on the trips you take, or going easy on the accelerator. Just about anything else is going to eat up the potential savings in the cost of the mod/time to implement the mod.
Trading the truck is just as bad of an idea. Cars are horrible investments, if your transportation is paid for, it will be almost impossible to recoup the cost of a new vehicle in fuel savings, esp. once insurance and maintenance (the whole "beater" idea) is taken into consideration.
So bottom line, a truck is a truck, don't buy one expecting high mileage, to get high mileage you would sacrifice what makes a truck worth having - strength, payload, durability etc. etc.
Just my .02
In conclusion
Don't buy a truck with/expecting high mileage, don't buy "low fat" snackwell cookies expecting them to taste like Oreos, and for Pete's sake, don't buy non-alcoholic beer, all defeat the purpose/benefit of the original and in the end - comparatively speaking, suck.
Amen to that....this is wisdom....don't let high gas prices make you do something STUPID
I Think Many people are Not tired of the Tundra because it gets decent Mpg (16 mpg) it's the Gas companies making a huge profit esp in times of natural disasters like last year's BS. It's this very reason we should boycott them and show them we mean business.Gas companies are making record profile with the president support it's a win win situation that neither our government has No control in.It's sort of interesting On the Ts main page Our founder makes suggestion on buying a hybrid Toyota like this is really going to help the situation since Hybrids are very costly to buy 38 to 40 K for a hybrid Highlander that's really something to con-sire is more payment then allocated everybody has the 2cent on this topic yet again there is cause and effect on almost anything..
first off, if you're driving a fairly new tundra, chances are you arent hurting that much in the financial department...gas was 2.27 here, now its 2.89.... an extra $12 isnt going to kill everyone to fill up...if you fill up every week, its only maybe an extra $50... i spend that much every time i go to the bars...not a biggie...
I Think Many people are Not tired of the Tundra because it gets decent Mpg (16 mpg) it's the Gas companies making a huge profit esp in times of natural disasters like last year's BS. It's this very reason we should boycott them and show them we mean business.Gas companies are making record profile with the president support it's a win win situation that neither our government has No control in.It's sort of interesting On the Ts main page Our founder makes suggestion on buying a hybrid Toyota like this is really going to help the situation since Hybrids are very costly to buy 38 to 40 K for a hybrid Highlander that's really something to con-sire is more payment then allocated everybody has the 2cent on this topic yet again there is cause and effect on almost anything..
There is a cause and effect to every decision anyone makes, be it bigger payload vs lower mileage or tastes great vs less filling. However the biggest cause of frustration around the price of gas is ignorance. I started the thread not to debate about how people "feel" the oil companies are screwing them vs reality, but to get people thinking about why they bought a vehicle that does not get 40mpg and hopefully get them thinking about the long term financial effect of a decision potentially based on the short term reward of seeing the cost of a tank drop by a couple bucks each time they are at the pump.
There is a cause and effect to every decision anyone makes, be it bigger payload vs lower mileage or tastes great vs less filling. However the biggest cause of frustration around the price of gas is ignorance. I started the thread not to debate about how people "feel" the oil companies are screwing them vs reality, but to get people thinking about why they bought a vehicle that does not get 40mpg and hopefully get them thinking about the long term financial effect of a decision potentially based on the short term reward of seeing the cost of a tank drop by a couple bucks each time they are at the pump.
That and it's a slow day at work
I'm on my second Tundra so I already Know what I got myself into but hey I needed a Truck and very aware the Tundra will Never ever get the Civics 40mpg . The reason I did my "Gas Crunch poll" was the same reasons as your post but a tad bit different The gas Companies are screwing us over this has been discussed many times . ever year around summer it seems the prices goes up like Inflation so my Next question when is the government going to raise the Minimal raise to offset the current cost the gas? Wile I can afford the current gas Crunch there are many out there not so lucky so i guess we need to consire other people out there vs our own . 2008 should be an interesting election with Bush out of office I cant wait to see some new blood in Office
Well the Long run in the end is all that matters, we're all working for retirement, not fun. Point in case, if you know you need to travel 25k a year, and DON'T NEED a truck, then DON'T buy one and complain about the mileage. If you need a truck, then get a truck. The Tundra is over 6k lbs, if you're driving it for work, claim mileage on your income taxes.
What people shouldn't do is trade in an 04/05 they're still making payments on, for a prius with the same payment (for more years than what was left on your original loan) just for mileage. You're taking a double hit on depreciation right as you drive it off the lot, once for the Tundra, and again for the Prius. Add to that, the fuel savings of a hybrid are offset by the higher initial cost, plus the great unknown of maintenance after the warranty runs out You might feel better weekly when filling up your tank, but long term total cost of ownership, it doesn't make sense.
Me, I love my cars, both suck gas, but I knew that going in. If gas hits $5 a gallon, I'll buy a motorcycle.
Not to mention that fact that a Prius will set you back more financially than the Tundra will in the long term. Hybrids only save you money when you are sitting in traffic. While driving, the electric engine isn't on so you might as well be driving a gas-powered Corolla. Add the fact that the batteries in these cars cost upwards of $5,000 to replace and the math doesnt add up. Hybrids are nothing more than a 'feel-good' purchase.
Wait, my Tundra doesn't get 40mpg???
Re: Wait, my Tundra doesn't get 40mpg???
. The reason I did my "Gas Crunch poll" was the same reasons as your post but a tad bit different The gas Companies are screwing us over this has been discussed many times . ever year around summer it seems the prices goes up like Inflation so my Next question when is the government going to raise the Minimal raise to offset the current cost the gas? Wile I can afford the current gas Crunch there are many out there not so lucky so i guess we need to consire other people out there vs our own . 2008 should be an interesting election with Bush out of office I cant wait to see some new blood in Office
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