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Old 04-02-2005, 11:32 PM
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Thumbs down fram problems

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Originally Posted by Dude Boy
I've been using Fram filters on most of my cars for over 40 years. My first cars had Fram as the original equipment. I've got a 78 Rabbit that has had nothing but Fram filters and the engine is still in good shape after 250K. Most of the older air-cooled VW's never had a filter, just a strainer screen in the sump. One thing that I have noticed is that the Fram name has been bought out by various companies over the years such as Allied Signal and more recently Honeywell. Like most companies, they are in business to make money and no doubt they have cheapened their product due to greed like everyone else, including Toyota. I've seen the pictures of the media with the holes in it and I don't like it. The filter can in the background doesn't look like a Fram though. Be aware that the new NAPA "Pro Select" and "Nascar Select" filter lines are lesser quality filters than "Napa Gold." Even though they advertise "spin flow" technology, the Napa Gold is supposed to have the higher quality fiberglas media where the Nascar Select has fiberglas and paper. The Pro Select is the same as the former Silverline filter and has paper media. Maybe the "Wix guy" can give us more details.
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It is hard to tell with the pictures if it is fram or not. What ever it is has been well used. I went through the Wix plant in Gastonia N.C. & the Puolator plant in Fayettville N.C.awhile back. Since I left Wix I really haven't kept up with the recent brands except Wix.I know Wix is still making the gold NAPA. The only experience I've had with fram was on a 430 Buick in a sprint car.After 2 snap barrell rolls & an end over into the wall, the filter was gone, along with most of the car, when we finally got it on the trailer.Can't blame fram for that one, just pilot error.
I have never seen a filter blow off an engine without it being a bad pressure relief valve. Even if the gasket is loose on the can it should seal when the filter is tightened. What I have seen is leakers due to installing with a dry seal or using a heavy grease,like wheel bearing grease on the seal.I have also seen the double gasket thing like J. Law had. We always said to use a little bit of fresh oil or drain oil, if it is clean, on your finger & wipe it on the new seal.Hydraulic installs the same way.
What do think the guys using Fram on hydraulics said when I cut one of their filters open & they saw the cardboard endcaps? Those were the easiest fleet sales you could make!!
Like I said previously ,there isn't an SAE rating on micron ratings, so they can just about advertise whatever they want about filtering media & be safe.You get what you pay for.

Hope this helps, Bob!

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