[Dude Boy]

Tundra39: I wasn't reading very carefully the other night, and didn't realize at the time that you were the "Wix guy." Sorry, if I offended you. I don't know how long the Fram spin-on filters have had the cardboard ends, but if they stay on, what does it hurt? I know the old C-4 Fram filters (cartridge type) that came on my old Ford, appeared to have some cardboard on the ends. At work, I have some ammonia compressors that have Fram cartridge filters and I think they are cardboard too. Why be so afraid of cardboard in the filter, when the media is often made out of filter paper? I have some other ammonia compressors that have Schroeder cartridge filters with metal end caps, and have seen a couple times where the end caps separate from the media when you remove the filter. In the cases where some of the fellows posting here had leaks due to leaving an extra gasket in place - well, that was their own fault (negligence) and not Fram's. If they didn't know the extra gasket was there, that means they never cleaned the mounting surface, and made sure there was no dirt, or anything else on there either. I wonder if they oiled the seal when they installed that original filter, or even tightened it correctly? I remember digging up to 2 or 3 old gaskets out while changing a filter on an older Chev V8 back before they had spin-on filters. That's almost excusable though, because they are pretty hard to detect up in that groove. I'll have to cut some of my old Frams apart to see how bad they look inside. Does anyone else have trouble with rust forming inside new filters stored in an unheated garage? It seems like they could spray some rust prevenative inside to insure against that.