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Originally Posted by rwelsh
Like Argamemenon (hope I got that right) I don't understand why you are so down on the manifold. I think everyone should be pleased and interested in such products. Everyone has the right to buy or not buy this product what they do not have is the right to slam this product because they personally do not like the idea of the product.
Cowboy has had the testing done and published the results. This is proof of what he claims-which is that the manifold flows 27-30% more than the stock manifold. This is all he claims.
When a manifold becomes available to me I will fit it with my Supercharger kit to my truck and go back to the same dyno that I used to dyno the kit originally. Then we will know what gains we get. Will that be proof enough to satisfy you.?????? Or will you still be pissed that you didn't have the idea first
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I think its a great product. Its beautiful and its an awesome show piece. I really like it but I dont envy it. You have some great points. However, I think Cowboy should slow down little on his products. One of his posts in our forum stating PROVEN and FLOWS. In general the interpretation of PROVEN means it is running in a live engine. Giving us the flow numbers is not proven. It just show that this manifold flows that is all. To me and most people proven is how this manifold work and fit into a running engine and document the grain if any. There are most complex issues then just making a manifold. For example:
How would this manifold fit under the hood?
How around the throttle body fit and what type of TB. If after market TB then which one and what type of bolt pattern it is or will be.
Would the TB interfer with the radiator or fan.
Would there be any cable connection issue?
What about wiring modification
How about this manifold affect idle
What type of computer it would need to full utilized this manifold
How would the injectors fitted
What about fuel rail mounts
The manifold doesnt function individually, it functions as part of the system. All those questions still need to be answer. I am not trying to bash anyone or product, but is it important to the community that this product is still being test or have not tested yet. Great products are welcome in this or any community, but untested products should be exposed. I have nothing against the mainfold, but I personally this product need some testing before selling. This product was available before the fabrication was finished let alone testing.
Cowboy and the gang. Slow down and let your products speak for itself. I think you guys are in such a hurry to push this community. Take your time and your awesome products will speak for itself. I can see your company will be the HKS in the V8 community, but please slow down and let your quality market itself.