Needed a new starter for the old 1990 4x4 4Runner so off to the dealer I go. Get a call and they says I needed an auxilary starter relay - be about $300. Anyone know what that's all about? Mine is a manual transmission - already has a starter relay. Last time I has a starter installed there was no 'auxilary relay' mentioned. Comments/thoughts?
never heard of an auxilary starter relay? Ask them where it goes? so i can look for it
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Apparently they added a NPN-TIFCO Starter Relay at 19.95, a NPN-TIFCO Wire Harness at 29.70, and a 90982-05035 Terminal Assy, Batt for 22.30 and some labor to install. This is after I made a big fuss over the initial estimate. The tech said something about resistance and not enough voltage getting to the starter. It looks like they added this for a more direct connection to the battery????
Then if there wasn't enough voltage to the starter, then why didnt they fix it?
Adding a relay is a band-aide for a real issue.
Usually it's the aftermarket alarm or the Electrical part of the iginition switch or the starter exciter wire has a bad end on it (they get hot and melt).
__________________ 2002 TUNDRA AC 2WD = NOT STOCK
MODS: TRD LSD w/4.88's| TRD Headers | Flowmaster 50 Series SUV | TRD Supercharger | Hellwig Rear Sway Bar (custom end links) | TOYOTA Power Antenna | Rear "AIR RIDE" w/ on board compressor | De-badged | Raybrig Headlights & Nokya yellow Foglights | Keyless Upgrade to Full Alarm | Toyota Air Filter | Horn Mod | Map Light Mod | Back Seat Mod | STUBBS Sliders | AXIS Wheels w/315/75-16 Yokohama Geolander MT + | Home Link | SUPERLIFT Tru-speed-speedo Recalibrator | McKesh Mirrors l 3" Body Lift w/Poly Body Mounts l Gap Gaurds l Stainless Brake Lines l Poly Sway Bar Bushings l Poly Rear Leaf Spring Bushings l Clear/Red/Clear Tailights l Black Corners & Headlight Assy's l Diff breather Mod l Nu-Image Blue Flame Gauges l Eclipse AVN5435 w/ Rev Cam & 8 disk changer l Custom rear roll pan w/lights l RCD 6" lift w/ 3" blocks and AAL l Camburg UCA's l High Lift Jack l Daystar Front & Rear Bumpers l 4 Hella Black Magic Lights l Budbuilt Trac Bar l ICOM 706 MKIIG l Doran tire pressure sensors
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They never did explain why this needed to be done other than the tech mumbling about resistance. Anyway, now I've got what appears to be a mickey mouse wiring setup coming off the battery to the new starter.
They never did explain why this needed to be done other than the tech mumbling about resistance. Anyway, now I've got what appears to be a mickey mouse wiring setup coming off the battery to the new starter.
Mike
sorry to hear about that. Mickey Mouse belongs at Disneyland in my book.
__________________ 2002 TUNDRA AC 2WD = NOT STOCK
MODS: TRD LSD w/4.88's| TRD Headers | Flowmaster 50 Series SUV | TRD Supercharger | Hellwig Rear Sway Bar (custom end links) | TOYOTA Power Antenna | Rear "AIR RIDE" w/ on board compressor | De-badged | Raybrig Headlights & Nokya yellow Foglights | Keyless Upgrade to Full Alarm | Toyota Air Filter | Horn Mod | Map Light Mod | Back Seat Mod | STUBBS Sliders | AXIS Wheels w/315/75-16 Yokohama Geolander MT + | Home Link | SUPERLIFT Tru-speed-speedo Recalibrator | McKesh Mirrors l 3" Body Lift w/Poly Body Mounts l Gap Gaurds l Stainless Brake Lines l Poly Sway Bar Bushings l Poly Rear Leaf Spring Bushings l Clear/Red/Clear Tailights l Black Corners & Headlight Assy's l Diff breather Mod l Nu-Image Blue Flame Gauges l Eclipse AVN5435 w/ Rev Cam & 8 disk changer l Custom rear roll pan w/lights l RCD 6" lift w/ 3" blocks and AAL l Camburg UCA's l High Lift Jack l Daystar Front & Rear Bumpers l 4 Hella Black Magic Lights l Budbuilt Trac Bar l ICOM 706 MKIIG l Doran tire pressure sensors
25 yrs with TOYOTA
MDT/Shop Foreman/FINDLAY TOYOTA
ASE Certified Master Automotive Technician
Official Pro Comp Certified Installer & Dealer
Official ICON Certified Installer & Dealer
Certified Toyota Forklift Operator
Certified Locksmith
Ham Radio Operator = KE7WLF