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Default Wheel/Hub Corrosion, '03 4Runner

Did a major maintenance today on our '03 Limited, which is less than 12 months old and has 20K miles. I went to rotate the tires and was dismayed to find that the wheels were all stuck fast to the hubs. It took many blows to the tires with a 3# sledge to break loose the bond of corrosion that had formed where the wheel center seats to the hub.

I live in Michigan, where the roads are salted in winter. Never the less, I've never seen this problem occur in so new a vehicle. I spent an hour or so sanding the corroded areas and applied a liberal coating of hi-temp anti-sieze compound. We'll see if that forestalls this happening again. I'm really glad I didn't wait through a second winter before removing the wheels for the first time!

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Did a major maintenance today on our '03 Limited, which is less than 12 months old and has 20K miles. I went to rotate the tires and was dismayed to find that the wheels were all stuck fast to the hubs. It took many blows to the tires with a 3# sledge to break loose the bond of corrosion that had formed where the wheel center seats to the hub.

I live in Michigan, where the roads are salted in winter. Never the less, I've never seen this problem occur in so new a vehicle. I spent an hour or so sanding the corroded areas and applied a liberal coating of hi-temp anti-sieze compound. We'll see if that forestalls this happening again. I'm really glad I didn't wait through a second winter before removing the wheels for the first time!

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Was this the first time that you rotated your tires?
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What else did you do to it at 20k besides rotate the tires, how did the tires look for 20k are you gonna get new ones
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Was this the first time you rotated the tires?

Yes. I carefully monitored the tires at each oil change and this was the first time any uneven wear was apparent (very minor). "Don't fix it 'till it's broke" is my motto.

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What else did you do to it at 20k besides rotate the tires, how did the tires look for 20k are you gonna get new ones
This was a major maintenance, since I have a 1500 mile tow coming up next week: Changed oil, oil filter, engine air filter (looked like new), cabin air filter (filthy and loaded with crud), lubed drive shaft Zerks, checked all fluid levels, tire pressures and brake pads.

I was fortunate and got the Michelin Cross-Terrains on my truck. They still have 9 - 10/32 of tread left, and will probably last at least to 60K miles. They are excellent tires!!!

Everything else looked just fine, too. Brakes still look like new and engine oil consumption over the past 6K miles had been zero. FWIW, I use Mobil One 5W-30 and Mobil One 75w-90 gear lube in all diffs and transfer case.

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I wish I got the Michelins, the Dunlops I got stuck with are doing OK I rotate them every 2000 miles but Im gonna get more aggressive tires cause the Dunlops are to plain jane and I need better snow traction.

If you don't mind me asking, I got just a few questions pertaining to what you did/do since I have a 4Runner also

How often do you change the oil and filter with the Mobil1 Synthetic, where did you get the incabin filter, I know Toyota will replace them during a service visit but for 60 bucks and I don't want to go their.

Do you know off hand how many zerk fitting need to be greased and Im a little confused cause their are ones you grease till you see grease come out and then their is the ones that you can only grease a few shots and nothin will come out.

FYI, I was reading in the owners manual and it says Dextron III Trans Fluid for the transfer case and power steering, I guess the trans fluid cools better and for the power steering flows better.

Since you said you have Mobil One 75w-90 gear lube in all diffs and transfer case, when did you change out the OEM stuff
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How often do you change the oil and filter with the Mobil1 Synthetic

Every 6K miles. I've based this interval on results of oil analysis I had done on my previous 4Runner.

where did you get the incabin filter?

Jay Marks Toyota in Houston discounts Toyota parts. Their number is 1 800 327-2087. Tell them you're a web customer. The cabin air filter was $21.43 net.

Do you know off hand how many zerk fitting need to be greased and Im a little confused cause their are ones you grease till you see grease come out and then their is the ones that you can only grease a few shots and nothin will come out.

I believe there are 6 Zerks, one for each U-joint and one for each slip yoke. I grease the ones in the middle of the U-joints about a shot-and-a-half, until a little old grease comes out of the needle bearings. The two slip yoke Zerks are on the outside of the driveshafts (one per driveshaft). I give them *lots* of grease, 6 - 8 pumps each from my gun.

FYI, I was reading in the owners manual and it says Dextron III Trans Fluid for the transfer case and power steering

My owners manual says (P. 340) the transfer case takes 75w-90 hypoid gear oil. Would you please post the page number where you found the recommendation to use ATF?

Since you said you have Mobil One 75w-90 gear lube in all diffs and transfer case, when did you change out the OEM stuff?

About 10K miles.

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Sorry man my mistake, it was another vehicle that said Trans fluid, what you put in is exactly what the book says.

Have you changed the trans fluid yet or do you just flush it
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Sorry man my mistake, it was another vehicle that said Trans fluid, what you put in is exactly what the book says.

Have you changed the trans fluid yet or do you just flush it
Whew - thanks. I was concerned I might have screwed up my transfer case!

Haven't done anything to the tranny. Suppose I should, since I tow a whole lot. The manual discourages you from changing ATF "unless it's really necessary", though, and strongly admonishes you to use only Toyota-branded special ATF.

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I believe there are 6 Zerks, one for each U-joint and one for each slip yoke. I grease the ones in the middle of the U-joints about a shot-and-a-half, until a little old grease comes out of the needle bearings. The two slip yoke Zerks are on the outside of the driveshafts (one per driveshaft). I give them *lots* of grease, 6 - 8 pumps each from my gun.

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Karl,

I took my '03 Sport in for an oil change last week to one of the quick lube places. While I was there, I asked them about lubing the driveshaft. They took a look under my 4Runner while it was on the lift and told me there there weren't any grease fittings, so a lube wasn't necessary.

Is he BS-ing me, or do you know for a fact that there are grease fittings under there? It is possible that there's plugs in place and simply need to be swapped for zerk fittings? I just haven't had a chance to look under there myself yet. Any info is appreciated.

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Karl,

I took my '03 Sport in for an oil change last week to one of the quick lube places. While I was there, I asked them about lubing the driveshaft. They took a look under my 4Runner while it was on the lift and told me there there weren't any grease fittings, so a lube wasn't necessary.

Is he BS-ing me, or do you know for a fact that there are grease fittings under there? It is possible that there's plugs in place and simply need to be swapped for zerk fittings? I just haven't had a chance to look under there myself yet. Any info is appreciated.

Eric
Is your 'Runner 2WD? If so, they may be correct. I've never been under a 2WD 'Runner, but I see the "lube propeller shaft" recommendation in the maintenance guide pertains to 4WD only, so it may be the 2WD models have no grease fittings.

OTOH, I guarantee you the fittings are there if your truck is 4WD!

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