[TTundra07]

Originally Posted by GGWOODY

Wow, you've got a pretty strong opinion there chief...especially when you seem to compare all of these nav units to the ONE in your Lexus.
If all of those aftre market units are so great.....how come you have owned several? I played with the nav in the Tundra and my Corvette has one. This past week a coworker and I were driving around in nashville and he was using a portable garmin deal...brand new, cost 500 bucks he said. it's detail and resolution was worse than the one in my vette (the GM is really good) Admittedly the japs prob have better nav systems than GM...The tundra's nav was cool great features, and I loved the map detail.

Also, you were very wrong on some things....
about my vette nav (which might not be as advanced as the toyoter nav):
-I can input POIs while driving, and I can scroll through upcoming exits and amenities.
-It shows roads in fields and does great with back country rural roads
-has never given me a wrong turn on rural roads from WA to GA
-It has seamless state-to-state mapping
-new disk is free...go to corvette forum and have someone burn a copy

++pros for a built-in unit
-it's coded and useless if stolen....not yours
-don't have to deal with a chunk of electronics blocking my view
-other vehicle systems displayed on screen
-integrated antenna
-no extra crap floating around my car/truck
-screen is bigger
-It's under warranty
-in the vette...the nav is integrated with the Head-Up Display and projects directions and route information on the windshield so I don't have to look away from the road...aftermarket won't do that biatch

yes, I have based my rebuttal on a GM/Corvette nav, but I have played with the new tundra's (as i previously stated)...the nav in my new tundra will be even better than the one in the vette (aside from the head-up display). I have also used (N)everlost in Hertz renatl cars for years and hate that stand-alone $h!t.

Before you point out all of those supposed, and often, fictional negatives, pllease be sure to be informed.

and now for something completely different::::
I wish that the voice on the nav was a bitchy british female that got exhasperated with me when I missed a turn....you know? Just like having a feisty woman sitting next to you, though without the potential for road-he*d.

“Wow, you've got a pretty strong opinion there chief...especially when you seem to compare all of these nav units to the ONE in your Lexus.”


Ok, where did I say that I was comparing all units in all cars to the Lexus/Toyota? I never mentioned a Vett. or any other vehicle.

“If all of those aftre market units are so great.....how come you have owned several? “

The obvious answer is improvements in the technology. I bought my first Garmin because I wanted a nav unit in my Acura. At the time the Acura unit didn’t even have the road that I live on in it database. The Garmin did.

“This past week a coworker and I were driving around in nashville and he was using a portable garmin deal...brand new, cost 500 bucks he said. it's detail and resolution was worse than the one in my vette (the GM is really good) Admittedly the japs prob have better nav systems than GM...”
“The tundra's nav was cool great features, and I loved the map detail.”


I never said that there was anything wrong with the map detail in town. If you look closely on one of the screens that show each region you will see that Lexus states. “ only some areas are covered in detail.” The screen also shows which areas are covered’, they are all in cities and not many at that.

How did you use all of the cool features while you were driving? All of us Lexus owners would like to be able to override the lockout feature without tearing out the dash to cut wires and install switches etc.

“Also, you were very wrong on some things....
about my vette nav (which might not be as advanced as the toyoter nav):
-I can input POIs while driving, and I can scroll through upcoming exits and amenities.
-It shows roads in fields and does great with back country rural roads
-has never given me a wrong turn on rural roads from WA to GA”
It has seamless state-to-state mapping
-new disk is free...go to corvette forum and have someone burn a copy

Read the post again. My major complaint is that all of these features are locked out while the vehicle is in motion and the DVD is expensive to update. If you don’t believe me, ask your Toyota dealer for the price of an update DVD..

"++pros for a built-in unit
-it's coded and useless if stolen....not yours
-don't have to deal with a chunk of electronics blocking my view
-other vehicle systems displayed on screen
-integrated antenna
-no extra crap floating around my car/truck
-screen is bigger
-It's under warranty”

All valid points. But I can buy the Garmin 7200 that has a 7 inch screen with at least the resolution of the Tundra has better maps, plays mp3’s, has blue tooth, traffic updates,…… and I can use it just like the one in your Vett.

"-in the vette...the nav is integrated with the Head-Up Display and projects directions and route information on the windshield so I don't have to look away from the road...aftermarket won't do that biatch”

True, the aftermarket doesn’t do heads up. I wish the Lexus/Tundra had the heads up display. That would be nice.

”yes, I have based my rebuttal on a GM/Corvette nav, but I have played with the new tundra's (as i previously stated)...the nav in my new tundra will be even better than the one in the vette (aside from the head-up display). I have also used (N)everlost in Hertz renatl cars for years and hate that stand-alone $h!t.”

”Before you point out all of those supposed, and often, fictional negatives, pllease be sure to be informed.”


I have used the nav in the Lexus about 5 months and I have used various Garmin unit for at least 10 years. Compared to the Garmin it sucks. Since you have only “PLAYED” with the Tundra and the 500.00 Garmin I think that just maybe you are the one that is not informed. .

We will have to agree to disagree.


“and now for something completely different::::
I wish that the voice on the nav was a bitchy british female that got with me when I missed a turn....you know? Just like having a feisty woman sitting next to you, though without the potential for road-he*d. ”

That would be ok when I am alone, but I usually have a feisty woman sitting next to me most of the time. I usually turn the voice prompts off as I don’t need two exasperated women telling me where to go, how fast/slow to go, how much distance to keep between me and the vehicle in front of me, etc,etc,etc.