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Originally Posted by TundraMaxxer
Let's be reasonable. There is no denying that Toyota has had a superior reputation for quality compared to domestics. Does that mean that Toyota's don't break? No. Does that mean that the new Toyota's won't have problems? No. But it chaps domestic owners knowing that Ford, Chevy or Dodge hasn't built vehicles as well as Toyota, whether they will admit it or not. The numbers bear this out.
If you want to talk about the durability and reliability of domestics compared to Toyota then come talk to me. I can tell you that my last Toyota was far superior to the domestic I owned previous to it. That's just one case, but my odomoter was not far from the numbers you said you wanted to see. I now have a new Tundra. Maybe it will be a great truck. Maybe not. Time will tell. If I do have a problem, I'll say so in this forum.
I think the point made earlier is that the new Tundra wasn't just a new vehicle for Toyota, but an entirely new manufacturing model, using U.S. parts on a scale never seen before, and in newly-built U.S. assembly plants. That again cannot be disputed. It's not that anyone wants to bash anything American. In fact, I have seen Toyota owners on this forum proudly hailing the fact that the new Tundra is as much an American truck as the next one.
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I never said that Toyota doesn't have a great reputation for quality, they most certainly do. What I find ironic is how people want to brag that the Tundra is American made and so forth, but then turn right around and dog out American manufacturing and other American products. Am I the only one who sees this?
I would have to agree that in general that Toyotas are more reliable then their American counterparts, however, that gap is far more narrow then it was 10 years ago, and it's getting more narrow every year IMO. Both of the Toyotas I have owned in the last 2 years have been far less impressive then ones I owned from the 80's and early 90's. I have had more trouble with my 05 Scion TC and my 04 4runner than I have with my previous 8 Toyotas combined.
As Toyota continues to grow, and they build vehicles like the new Tundra that are actually capable of being worked hard, you will see more problems. Just because it's a Toyota doesn't mean it's going to go 300k w/out a problem, and just because it's a GM or Dodge doesn't mean it was only designed to last 100k miles. Every vehicle is different.
There was a time when I was the most diehard Toyota fan there was, but I have since branched out although I still own a Toyota. I can tell you the thinking that all domestics are junk compared to Toyotas is an outdated concept from what I have seen. Since the number was brought up by the original poster, would you not agree that probably less than 1% of all cars every hit the 300K mark? And of those, probably less than 20% of them are all original owners. Most people probably only keep a vehicle for 50k to 75k miles on average, so what's the point?