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Originally Posted by TundraMaxxer
I don't disagree with you, but if Toyota's quality and reliability takes a nosedive only after moving their operations to America and using a majority of American-made parts...what would you say? I don't think it's too much of a leap to see a cause and effect if that really is what happens. It's way too early to be saying that now, however, with only 20 cam failures out of 30,000 trucks.
You see American vs. Japan. I see it as what works vs. what doesn't. I don't really care where it is made or put together, as long as it runs as designed and keeps running as designed. Thus far, Toyota has come closer to that goal than the domestics.
That quality gap between Toyota and the domestics may well be narrowing, but I just cannot bring myself to believe it. I have a friend who bought a brand new Chevy truck, and he has had it in the shop for approximately 30 different issues. He thinks he has had it in the shop more weeks than he's had it. When you consider cases like that, 20 broken camshafts out of 30,000 doesn't seem too bad. Maybe we'll see 2,000 broken camshafts before all is said and done. Who knows.
Thus far, my Tundra has run very well and I now have about 3,000 miles on it after some fairly easy "break-in" driving. It may break tomorrow, and keep breaking after that. Or it might go for 150,000 miles without so much as a loose radio knob. Time will tell.
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What I think is that Toyota is a company just like any other. They are in it to make as much money as possible. If they can cut corners and still sell cars and trucks, they will do it. I think they took more pride in their products when they were the underdog, but once they started to really take things over, they set the cruise control and looked for ways to save $$$... I have friend and family that work at the Camry plant and they will tell you the same thing. I would much prefer a Toyota built in the days when they were trying to get that #1 spot then I would a couple of years after they got it.
I agree with you basically except for the fact that you are justifying how you feel about domestics based partially on your friends GM that has had issues, yet you write the Tundra issues off as being an insignificantly small percentage, yet GM sells many more trucks then Toyota and you have let this one truck form your negative opinion. Seems like the odds are not working to support your theory in this instance.