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Originally Posted by CACressida

This maybe slightly off topic, but a year ago I was going to purchase a 2005 LandCruiser loaded to the gills from Modesto Toyota. The truck had 30k miles on it and was in immaculate condition. Even carfax returned a clean history. Rear bumper seemed alil off, so I took one look and to my surprise............

My brand new FJ's backup sensors were disconnected. What does that tell you? I would've never knew this If I didn't inspect. I recommend you guys inspect brand new cars too. Back in 2001, I was going to purchase a 2002 Limited 4Runner. Ended up with a Sport Edition because the Limited front bumper looked like it was painted over. How do I know? Inside the grille of the nudgebar should be black, not silver

It's a good thing to pay attention to details.

I absolutely agree (coming from someone who works in the industry). Check for the important stuff, and if you're picky like I am the lesser important stuff. Check the paint (open the hood, doors, etc.) and check for overspray. If a car backs into another on the lot or a technician sideswipes the lift or a careless runner bends the front hood on a brand new Ultra-Luxury ES350 by driving into a fence, these things can be repaired. And often times, the damage is not reported. A good body shop will take care of those issues with little or no noticeabilty (sp?). However, some dealerships who outsource small jobs to private companies or have body shops that are so backed up or busy may do a shotty job. Check for the "orange peel" (which some of our trucks have anyways) and the overspray in the grooves...Carfax doesn't get it all, especially if car has never been registered or left the lot.