[bobstcyr]

Yep.... saw all that but considered suspension lift and larger wheels for the increased clearance. I am not interested in the RAV or Highlander..... or any other SUV for that matter which why I'm trying to get more detail on this new offering from Toyota.....

As for quality..... my personal observation is Toyota has been sliding for several years...... I had a 200 Avalon with a really messed up transmission. the "replacement" was far worse than the original and all Toyota would say "it's in spec.....they all do that" ! yeah, right, let's put the car in reverse and wait 3-5 seconds for the car to move!??!!?!?

I remember when Toyota would never accept a representation of their product like that.....
my 06 Avalon has been good with the exception of having to reflash the firmware of the 06 transmission.