oy! that 4x4 bumper under "future projects" is exactly what i've been looking for. i was thinking i'd have to do it myself, this might be easier...it looks like their 4x4 bumper (with winch) would have the clearance i'm after and still be able to run a 12K# (or maybe just a 9500#) winch. it even has the side protectors for the front 1/4 panels.
-sean
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