[SFTundraMan]

the only thing that really matters is what the bottom line price is. Who cares what the fees are or arent. Perfect example. In California we have one of the , if not the lowest doc fee in the country. It is only $55. I had a customer that stated that he wont buy the car if he has to pay the doc fee. So I told him it is automatic and I will just lower the price another $55 so he is not really paying it. He said no, if the fee is on the contract, he wont buy it no matter how much I take off. I dont know if he ever bought a car or not but it wasnt from me.