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Old 05-11-2003, 05:50 PM
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I just purchased this radar detector last month, and boy I am loving it so far. Took me 2 years to finally purchase it due to the price tag on it.

Has any one else tried it yet? How has it worked for you?

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Old 05-11-2003, 06:24 PM
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I've had a V1 for about a year and a half, and I simply will not drive without it now - the thing is amazingly reliable. I've picked up FL state police running radar on I-10 from greater than 4 miles away. The proof - no speeding tickets while I've had it - in the Tundra or on my bike.

If you want a radar detector, get a V1, it's the best!

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Old 05-11-2003, 08:35 PM
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I've had one for a few years now, and it's pretty awesome. It's more than paid for itself. The only thing I haven't liked about it is that it is very sensitive to its power cord. If the power line becomes a litte loose you can get all kinds of false signals...
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I have one on my BMW bike and one in the Tundra. In the Tundra I made a velcro mounting pad and stuck it on top of the rear seat looking forward. I put a V1 remote indicator on the top of the steering column. That way I don't advertise to the man that I am detecting his rays. Works fine there including laser. - Lee
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Old 05-12-2003, 04:37 PM
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True, but. . .

VASCAR's just a cop with a stopwatch and a time-speed-distance formula.

I used to live in VA (where radar/laser detectors are illegal), and on all the interstates every 60 miles or so, there are three white lines running across the road at about 500 meter intervals so that the 'ole "bear in the air" can time you between the lines, knowing the distance between, and calculate your *approximate* speed. Hence, whenever I drove across the lines, I'd get off cruise and slow down a bit.

Check out this story of a guy's fight against VASCAR in PA - I don't know how credible this is, but there's photocopies of actual court documents to back it up.

Long story short - if you see lines running across the damn road, slow down.

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they work well for radar, no doubt, but don't get a false sense of security and speed all the time, because you can still get nailed from an undetectable vascar trap. PA state troopers quit using radar almost altogether and now use vascar (timing device) to nail speeders.
Oh, of course not. They're great for what they are, but there are serious limitations. They're in no way a substitute for intelligent driving, they won't spot a cop without it's radar on, and of course they do nothing for one that's sitting in your blind spot pacing you...

But, they're sure a nice additional aid beyond your normal visual scanning.

Actually read an interview in the local paper a while ago where they were talking about local CHP being able to use radar on the freeway again and the usage of radar detectors. The gist of his comment was "We don't mind them using detectors because we've found that people with detectors tend to drive more cautiously than those without anyway." Don't think he had any way of backing that statement up, but, was an interesting read nonetheless.
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...a radar detector is a support system--it's to be used in addition to your eyes, ie the guy using laser, pulse or that gawdawful instant-on system will probably still nab you if you're the only car on the road and you're not paying attention.

between the v-1 and a little common sense, i've stayed out of trouble.

fun things to do with your v-1: when you see the guy pointing a laser in your direction, slow waaaaaaay down so you block the laser field of view for a while as you're driving by. even better, when you see a cop in a parking lot with a laser, cruise over between him and the oncoming traffic, and pretend to read a map or something . lasers have an extremely small field of view, much smaller than radar, and they get scattered in all directions when they reflect off something like your chrome bumper, mirrors, etc...

i got two tickets in denver and realized that for the money, i could have got a v-1, so i got one. just stuck it above the rearview mirror...incidentally, the top of the inside of the instrument panel is a great place for the remote display, but i had such a time getting it to stick it's in the glove for now.

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Just for your info 95% of all CHP B&W vehicles have radar. Some all white vehicles like the very stealthy Camaros also have radar. The guys who drive the Camaros tell me that all they have to do is cruise in the slow lane and people fly by doing 90 and 100 MPH plus all day long. Very few get away from the 160 MPH plus Camaros.
They can also use a technique called "shot gunning" and defeat your radar detector. They simple put their radar on "hold" or "stand by" (depending on the model of radar used) and take it off when you get close enough for an accurate reading.
Another way is for them to use a solid object like a small hill, bridge or wall to block their signal until you clear the obstacle and then you are instantly tagged.
With both of the techniques above you will still get a very low reading (1 or 2 on my detector) just a few seconds before your detector maxis out.
Be smart. Use your radar detectors wisely and not as a crutch to go fast.
"Most" cops say (remember I said MOST)
5 MPH over the speed limit and I should write you.
10 MPH over and I will write you.
ALSO! CHP is increasing its air surveillance.
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Radar detectors are almost useless in a "one-on-one" situation where there's just you and the officer with nobody around. There's many ways of defeating a detector. However, one on one situations are the exception rather than the rule. When they tag someone further up, checking their speed, that's when a good detector pays for itself, by seeing the "scatter" that occurs and warning you that there's a radar source nearby.

By no means is a detector a free pass for driving stupid. (i.e. way too fast).
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At least you guys can buy radar detectors where you are. I have to leave the state in order to get one. It's illegal here in VA and I can't even purchase one online at all....not allowed to ship radar detectors to VA either. I should know, I tried already. Had to get it shipped to a store in N.C. and drive to it to pick it up.
What I do notice that some state toopers (mostly the unmarked cars) do is do the pace thing. Where they just pull up nest to you or behind you and follow you for a little bit to see how fast you are going in comparison to their speedometer.
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ryan...yep, saw the lines...that's when i usually lurk with the rest of traffic, if i know there's a hiding spot nearby! i'm getting to know that stretch of highway pretty well .

you can't "defeat" a radar detector. you can only "defeat" a person, meaning that any type of warfare, electronic included, is won or lost based on behavioral exploitation.

last time a cop paced me, i switched lanes and coasted down to about 55 til he got bored...

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