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Hey y'all...

I looked around for brake fluid change procedures and didn't find anything specific in the various threads...

Do I just bleed the four calipers and fill at the master until I am done?

Or is there an easier way?
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Draw the old fluid out of the master cylinder reservoir and fill with new DOT3 or DOT4 brake fluid. I like ATE (blue one time, amber the next) or Valvoline.
http://www.fcpgroton.com/volvo240brake.htm#fluid

Bleed the brakes in this order until new, clean fluid appears...RR, LR, rear proportioning valve, RF, LF. Don't let the reservoir go empty and suck air into the system. Test the brakes, If the pedal is spongy, bleed again to remove any air bubbles you missed.


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This is the single most over-looked maintenance item. My experience has been that if you change and flush the brake fluid completely every two years, you will never have any hydraulic brake system leaks, failures or wear-outs.
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hey ken, why bleed the farthest down the line first? does it matter if you go nearest to farthest or vv?
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I like power bleeders for this job. That way you dont have to worry about letting the mastercylinder go empty. You do have to be sure that that bugger is on tight as any leaking brake fluid will ruin your paint.

I think its always a good idea to stick with the proper bleeding rotation even tho with a flush its probably not as important
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Sean,

I'm not sure. Farthest to nearest is the traditional technique. Interestingly, my Volvo with ABS needs to have the brakes bled nearest to farthest...and it does make a difference.


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I just recently found a single person modified air pressure bleeder kit utilizing the pressure from one of your tires. There are 5 adaptors depending on yur particular model. The system is called speedi-bleed. The website is as follows www.brake-bleeding.com. This site is out of Canada. For the one adaptor system the cost was $119 US and for the complete Professional kit with all 5 adaptor ~$289 US. For a US location just type in speedi-bleed in a search engine and follow the sites. Check it out.
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You can also get a medical vacuum pump that can pull almost 25" Hg vacuum. I have one and use it for many, many things. It makes brake bleeding a real snap!!
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http://www.motiveproducts.com/02bleeders.html

Get the Universal model - $50 bucks plus shipping-
-Well worth the money- Allows you to easily flush the entire system.

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I have used the MityVac on my MGB and have had mixed results. You can get on at AutoZone for $25.

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I use my MityVac. To minimize the air drawn around the threads of the loosened bleed nipples, I remove them, quickly put a turn of teflon pipe thread tape on the threads, and reinstall the nipples before much fluid leaks down my sleeve.


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Draw the old fluid out of the master cylinder reservoir and fill with new DOT3 or DOT4 brake fluid. I like ATE (blue one time, amber the next) or Valvoline.
http://www.fcpgroton.com/volvo240brake.htm#fluid

Bleed the brakes in this order until new, clean fluid appears...RR, LR, rear proportioning valve, RF, LF. Don't let the reservoir go empty and suck air into the system. Test the brakes, If the pedal is spongy, bleed again to remove any air bubbles you missed.


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Good stuff, thanks...I'll be using a one man bleeder so I could imagine this being somewhat time consuming. The idea of swapping for blue fluid is a great idea!

Thanks again
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I am still recommending the POwer bleeder over the other systems.
Basically:
Fill the container w brake fluid-
Connect to Master Cylinder reservoir.
Pump until you establish 15psi Pressure
..When you open the bleederscrews- fluid is pushed from the master cylinder.
You can go from wheel to wheel if there is enough pressure & fluid.

The Blue & Amber racing fluid is avaialbe from the Motive site too.
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Quote:
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Draw the old fluid out of the master cylinder reservoir and fill with new DOT3 or DOT4 brake fluid. I like ATE (blue one time, amber the next) or Valvoline.
http://www.fcpgroton.com/volvo240brake.htm#fluid

Bleed the brakes in this order until new, clean fluid appears...RR, LR, rear proportioning valve, RF, LF. Don't let the reservoir go empty and suck air into the system. Test the brakes, If the pedal is spongy, bleed again to remove any air bubbles you missed.


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Haynes and Chilton manuals specify that the rear proportioning valve is to be done last in the rotation. So RR, LR, RF, LF, rear proportioning valve.

Anyone use Toyota DOT3 brake fluid for their flush?
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Haynes and Chilton manuals specify that the rear proportioning valve is to be done last in the rotation. So RR, LR, RF, LF, rear proportioning valve.

Anyone use Toyota DOT3 brake fluid for their flush?

Good thing that I am a procrastinator...I am going to dive into my brakes this weekend (hopefully)
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