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I thought about buying a 2005 Toyota Tundra Double Cab SR5, but after reading about brake problems I am having second thoughts. Is this problem a lot of Toyota Tundra owners are dealing with? I currently own a 1995 Ford Explorer with 111,600 miles and have very few problems with it until recently. It seems that my Ford Explorer may now have the same problem that many Tundra owners have, namely, severe vibration when braking. Is there a defect that causes the front rotors to ware very rapidly on the 2005 Toyota Tundra Double Cab SR5? Toyota at least in the past had great reputation for reliability and it is sad to read about this problem. If this problem is really wide spread, I may decide to buy a Ford 150 Lariot SuperCrew instead.
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Toyota upgraded the brakes around 2003 and the later models are much better. Driving habits can also cause rotor issues no matter which vehicle. Sounds like if you haven't had any problems with your Explorer you won't have any with a 2005 Tundra either.

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Are definitely a major factor. Certain vehicles just have crappy brakes, read here http://www.raceshopper.com/brake_problems.shtml I had a '94 Explorer that was my wifes truck. She is NOT EASY on brakes (or much else). The best I ever got for brake life on the Explorer was 15k with the Performance Friction Carbon Metallics. In 6 years I went through 2 sets of rotors (all cracked!!!) and 5 sets of pads, THEN my tranny went with 100K, and the radiator, and belt tensioner, and the tranny again (AAMCO SUCKS!!!!) the sunroof started to leak, more noise from the tranny, 4 major safety issue recalls.

Then I bought the Sequoia same driver (still not very gentle), 1st brakes 23k (pads only) rotors still look good, faulty oil pressure sender (known TSB). Thats it for issues (so far, keep fingers crossed)

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2003 with nearly 120k on it.
Changed the pads twice, no problems.
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I thought about buying a 2005 Toyota Tundra Double Cab SR5, but after reading about brake problems I am having second thoughts. Is this problem a lot of Toyota Tundra owners are dealing with? I currently own a 1995 Ford Explorer with 111,600 miles and have very few problems with it until recently. It seems that my Ford Explorer may now have the same problem that many Tundra owners have, namely, severe vibration when braking. Is there a defect that causes the front rotors to ware very rapidly on the 2005 Toyota Tundra Double Cab SR5? Toyota at least in the past had great reputation for reliability and it is sad to read about this problem. If this problem is really wide spread, I may decide to buy a Ford 150 Lariot SuperCrew instead.


Brakes problem's on the Tundra on the first run was a joke and it was a serious problem and very much a Toyota tundra problem because it wasn't handled in the right manner.Toyota should have issued a recall on the 00-02 Tundra ..The 03 on Tundra's brakes were redesigned and for good reason the capilers themselves were the flawed part as note it was causing a lot of premature warping on the front Disk. The newed Improved brakes which I have On mine are ok however the tundra does require the pad's to be changed out every year...Either way good luck on what you get because this is one area I'll tell you I hate about my present truck is the brake's on lasting even kept my parent's for buying one too ..I aint hard on my brakes either it's just something very commen to this truck
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HUMMM, not so sure about the brakes not lasting on Tundra's. My '03 is just coming up on the 90K mile mark and most likely when I have the timing belt replaced, I MAY go ahead and have the original brake pads replaced...or not, depending on just how much pad is left.

Presumably I have the upgraded brakes from the 00-02 models and have had NO problems with warping.
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Mmm... I agree with hsvhobbit. Only 35K on my 2003 and still have original pads with not a lot of wear. My driving is half city and half highway. I expect my original pads to last at least 60-70K, hopefully longer. That's 5-6 years.

I had a 2001 Tundra and experienced the brake problem. As noted this was a problem and was corrected in the early 2003 MY. I don't think you need to be concerned about a problem that doesn't affect later models.

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Mmm... I agree with hsvhobbit. Only 35K on my 2003 and still have original pads with not a lot of wear. My driving is half city and half highway. I expect my original pads to last at least 60-70K, hopefully longer. That's 5-6 years.

I had a 2001 Tundra and experienced the brake problem. As noted this was a problem and was corrected in the early 2003 MY. I don't think you need to be concerned about a problem that doesn't affect later models.

Let us know what you decide on.

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It's a knowen fact even with the new updates on the 03 on which my Tundra has on as well these problem's still occure.The Tundra has a pretty good stoping distance however they still have reported problems on brakes having vibes and wheel outset issues just comman knowledge coming from this truck beyond that something we can live with. The pad's really dont last long on this truck either expect to see one year of use (around 25k a year on miles i put on mine)..I have talked with many owner's including another 03 Tundra owner In atlanta and we all agree Brakes on the Tundra take a hand's down
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Well... whether it's a "knowen fact" or not, you've got more than two people right here on this thread that are in complete disagreement with you.

Stock pads lasted 40k.
Replacement pads (Toyota) lasted 40k.
Next replacement was Wheeler's E-911 pads. I've got 40k on them and they don't even look like they're down 50%.
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Well... whether it's a "knowen fact" or not, you've got more than two people right here on this thread that are in complete disagreement with you.

Stock pads lasted 40k.
Replacement pads (Toyota) lasted 40k.
Next replacement was Wheeler's E-911 pads. I've got 40k on them and they don't even look like they're down 50%.

I've had My Tundra long enought to know it's a POS on this issue not to mention there are plenty of other owners out there with the same issues check out the countless number of thread's on this issue beyond that it's an "OK" truck with the exception of pretty Crappy brakes . . Stock pads life 25K really Not hardly on mine Before I had Toyota phase in this 03 brake upgrade TSB I was getting like 5 to 6k on miles before there was no pad life at all.Rlockyer seem's to me I would never Buy anything period On the first batch from Toyota and even still this Truck hasn't received enought upgrades to make me buy another one In this body style beyond the small tweeks and faced lifted grill and bumper it still hasnt changed that very much since 2000 .When the New Tundra comes out I'll wait a year or two before I trade this one out . I am very aware on the next truck as far as new features and new options and hopefully it doesn't let us down..
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I had the rotors turned on my 2000 at 28,000 miles and changed the pads (50% left) with new Toyota pads. Mine does not have the upgraded calipers. I now have 60,000 miles on the truck with no vibes and 2/3 of the pads left.

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I've had My Tundra long enought to know it's a POS on this issue not to mention there are plenty of other owners out there with the same issues check out the countless number of thread's on this issue beyond that it's an "OK" truck with the exception of pretty Crappy brakes . . Stock pads life 25K really Not hardly on mine Before I had Toyota phase in this 03 brake upgrade TSB I was getting like 5 to 6k on miles before there was no pad life at all.Rlockyer seem's to me I would never Buy anything period On the first batch from Toyota and even still this Truck hasn't received enought upgrades to make me buy another one In this body style beyond the small tweeks and faced lifted grill and bumper it still hasnt changed that very much since 2000 .When the New Tundra comes out I'll wait a year or two before I trade this one out . I am very aware on the next truck as far as new features and new options and hopefully it doesn't let us down..
I am with you on this one TUNDRAV8GERORGIA. I also belive the difference's people are having with wear depends on what kind of terrain you drive on and I am not talking about offroad but whether you have nice flat straight roads or hilly and curvy roads like I have to deal with all the time.

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Wasn't trying to flame anyone when I disagreed with the generalization that Tundra's all eat brakes. Just recounting my personal experience. FWIW when I had my truck serviced at around 65K, the mechanic refused to believe that I hadn't had at LEAST one brake job until he pulled the wheels and looked for himself. Told me that he'd never seen one make it past 30K w/o new pads. Whatever, unless some very quiet little elves came by and did a brake job for me in the middle of the night , I've got a Tundra sitting in the parking lot with almost 90K miles on it, and the factory original pads on it.

Probably 70+ % of my driving is highway miles, but the other 30% is city driving and I'm not gentle on my brakes.

Those of you turned off on Tundra's because of your bad experiences with brakes, I"m sorry to hear about it and wish you well with whatever you choose to replace it with.
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Wasn't trying to flame anyone when I disagreed with the generalization that Tundra's all eat brakes. Just recounting my personal experience. FWIW when I had my truck serviced at around 65K, the mechanic refused to believe that I hadn't had at LEAST one brake job until he pulled the wheels and looked for himself. Told me that he'd never seen one make it past 30K w/o new pads. Whatever, unless some very quiet little elves came by and did a brake job for me in the middle of the night , I've got a Tundra sitting in the parking lot with almost 90K miles on it, and the factory original pads on it.

Probably 70+ % of my driving is highway miles, but the other 30% is city driving and I'm not gentle on my brakes.

Those of you turned off on Tundra's because of your bad experiences with brakes, I"m sorry to hear about it and wish you well with whatever you choose to replace it with.
I have had problems with all vehicles that I have had to some degree with brakes; but since I moved to the valley I live in now it is much worse. I had a 99 F-150 that I had about the same problems as far as the front brakes warping the rotors. My only unique problem that I had with this Tundra is the rear brake problems. I have had 4 sets of drums and each set was turned at least 3 times each I still think my problem is with my rear axels being out of spec and there is a TSB for it(which came out to late for me) but I am out of warranty for that. I have gone the most miles without having a serious rear brake vib since I bought non OEM rear brake parts though.

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I have had problems with all vehicles that I have had to some degree with brakes; but since I moved to the valley I live in now it is much worse. I had a 99 F-150 that I had about the same problems as far as the front brakes warping the rotors. My only unique problem that I had with this Tundra is the rear brake problems. I have had 4 sets of drums and each set was turned at least 3 times each I still think my problem is with my rear axels being out of spec and there is a TSB for it(which came out to late for me) but I am out of warranty for that. I have gone the most miles without having a serious rear brake vib since I bought non OEM rear brake parts though.

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My Tundra seems to be having issues allway's upfront in fact ive never changed out the rear's other than the4 runner rear drum tsb updates beyond that therear on mine dont seem to have a problem
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