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One More - The Bigger Of The Two Is The 13wl Caliper You Are Looking For - I Ordered My Replacements For A 2004 Toyota Tundra Pickup From Import Replacement Parts And They Sent Me The Old Style Calipers - They Listed On Part Number From 1999 To 2006 So I Figured It Would Be The Correct One - Well It Wasnt - Thats Why I Have Two New S13we Calipers As Well As 2 New 13wl Calipers (from Napa) - The Guy At Import Replacement Parts Was Real Helpful And Didnt Try To Jerk Me Around About Returning Them Or Charging A -20% Restocking Fee Since It Was Appaerent They Dont Have The Right Part - He Sent Me A Ups Shipping Return Label Even - Orddered All The Rotors, Pads, Ate Blue Fluid, Etc From Them For The Tundra As Well As For The Wrx And Everything Else Came Fine - Not The Most Professionally Packaged As They Came In "potato Wedges" Boxes (50 Pounds Each !!!) With Newspaper Balled Up Inside For Packaging Cushioning. Anyway, Here Is One More Pic
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Finally And Possibly Most Important, The Casting Numbers On The Insides For Each.........
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first of all- brand new to the site and it has already paid off with this thread as i have been researcching for a repair for my wife's shuddering brakes on her tundra.....

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i JUST CHECKED THEIR WEBSITE AND IT LISTS THE CORE charge of $96.15, not $12.00. Thats awesome of you were able to get them to charge you only $12.00 for a core! it does indeed list the remanufactured caliper at $93.45............. why is the old used core worth more than the remanufactured part?????

also, it shows both a single metal piston replacement as well as a four phenolic piston replacement.......... are these just the wrong pictures? also, was there a move to phenolic ppiston vs metal to help with the heat issue?

Thanks for the help!
When I ordered the parts from them, there were a couple of things that weren't right, in their web site and fell into my favor. For once I was lucky I ordered when I did. The core charge was $12.
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The core prices are likely to clime as the remanufactures discover they are not getting cores back.
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Just got finished with mine tonight. All went smooth as could be- except for breaking off one of the line mounting bolts. Took the truck out and did the bedding in procedure. During the hard stops from 45 required me to peel my eyeballs from the windshield.

the brakes are incredible. Thanks again for all the info!
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I am about to do this on my dad's truck.

I will order the semi-loaded calipers and Brembo rotors, the rest will be Toyota OEM parts (pads, bolts, shim kit, brake line).

Can someone confirm this: Will I be re-using the old pins and springs from the old calipers?(you know, the long pin that keeps the pads in place). Or do these semi-loaded calipers come with new ones? I see a hardware kit option for the new calipers, but not sure what that is.

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my rebuilt calipers came with the retaining pins and spring. I'm not going to tell you yours will, but mine did. I'm not sure what would be in the hardware kit.

I do suggest an application of pb blaster or some other penetrating lube so you spend 1.5 hours removing a sheared bolt from the brakeline support...like i did.
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I am about to do this on my dad's truck.

I will order the semi-loaded calipers and Brembo rotors, the rest will be Toyota OEM parts (pads, bolts, shim kit, brake line).

Can someone confirm this: Will I be re-using the old pins and springs from the old calipers?(you know, the long pin that keeps the pads in place). Or do these semi-loaded calipers come with new ones? I see a hardware kit option for the new calipers, but not sure what that is.

Thanks. /Mike

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you will notice a huge difference I forced Toyota to fix My truck on a so call you fix it Or i will lemon it .They chose to fix it with the updated Tsb...
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I am about to do this on my dad's truck.

I will order the semi-loaded calipers and Brembo rotors, the rest will be Toyota OEM parts (pads, bolts, shim kit, brake line).

Can someone confirm this: Will I be re-using the old pins and springs from the old calipers?(you know, the long pin that keeps the pads in place). Or do these semi-loaded calipers come with new ones? I see a hardware kit option for the new calipers, but not sure what that is.

Thanks. /Mike
Semi loaded calipers should come with hardware, pins and springs.
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Hi guys, I am new to this forum and the Tundra world in general. What I am wondering is why exactly the TSB was made for the tundra? What was going wrong with the rotors and calipers? Where they just warping constantly?

thanks so much I am trying to see what all the fuss is about!

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They used pads that where about the same size as pads for a camry and they where tooo small causing to much localized heat making the rotors warp. If anyone has the TSB to post that would be great.

The TSB / KB has been removed incase you did not know.

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I just looked at the TSB and I'm wondering why Toyota lists things like bearings and seals and such. I understand that they have to replace the dust shields with apropriate ones but bearings I don't understand that one?
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I just looked at the TSB and I'm wondering why Toyota lists things like bearings and seals and such. I understand that they have to replace the dust shields with apropriate ones but bearings I don't understand that one?
Can you post the TSB?
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Can you post the TSB?

I can't right now, mitchell ondemand doesn't allow you to cut and paste. I should be able to do something from my computer when I get home though.
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I just looked at the TSB and I'm wondering why Toyota lists things like bearings and seals and such. I understand that they have to replace the dust shields with apropriate ones but bearings I don't understand that one?
This is what the tread is all about, how to save time and money doing this repair yourself.
For those contemplating doing this, I just had another member of this forum come to my home and we did his brakes. I got lots of photos and I am right now writing a full expiation on how to do this upgrade, with pictures of course. Here are some exerts from this write up that explains what is done to save money.

"On 09/02/02 Toyota released Technical service bulletin BR004-02 this bulletin was revised last on 04/04/05. This TSB addressed reoccurring front brake vibration on early trucks. This TSB replaced the front calipers with larger unit that hold different brake pads.
"Reading through TSB BR004-02 can be intimidating for the novic do-it-yourselfer. In this bulletin, Toyota technicians must replace the disc brake dust shield or backing plate. This is done so there is clearance for the new calipers. There is an array of twelve specialty tools listed to do this job. The upright must be removed and the bearing replace as the hub must be removed to replace the dust shield. At a service shop or dealership this additional work can add as much a $400.00 to the repair bill.
All this disassembling and additional cost can be eliminated by simply trimming back the dust shield to clear the larger calipers. This not only save considerable time and money but eliminated any mistakes or damage that could happen during an unneeded bearing replacement."

I hope to have this done in the next few weeks. So stay tuned.

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