SAM-RAI I agree with your principals on synthetic oil I also run the mobil synthetic transmission oil in my 06 camry and lexus 400 also use the same oil in my power steering and change it every 25,000 in both . BMW and other cars use the same oil and go 100,000 miles between oil changes. I don't like that much mileage on any oil if I had a BMW I would change it at 50,000 miles. I have put over 429,000 miles on a toyota cressida using this fluid in all parts of the car and I have 215,000 on my lexus using mobil one and no problems. HERE IS AN INTERESTING REPLY I HEARD MOBIL ONE HELPS THE ENGINE PASS SMOG TEST. Don't quote me on this but I never had problem passing smog test on any of my cars maybe there is someting to this who knows.
I used to use Mobil 1 synthetic trans oil on my previosly owned 97 Tacoma 4x4 and and 93 Camry V6 and changed them every 50-60K. Although, I never bother to use it on the power steerings on any of the vehicles I've ever owned. Usually, I considered the engine and transmission the two most important thing and tried to prolong the mechanical life of it as much as possible. I have however consider it, but decided not to since the powering steering was never an issue or concern for me in the past.
My current Camry I4 and Avalon engines hasn't seen any synthetic trans oil, but both does get flush out with regular trans oil around every 50-60K. This seem to work fine too and the transmission still shift smoothly. I though about synthetic trans oil, but just never got around to doing it since the regular trans oil works OK.
I still have a 91 Cressida with over 200K on it and the both the engine and transmission have synthetic oil in it. I had the synthetic trans oil changes on this car twice and the vehicle still runs good, but I hardly ever drive it anymore since it doesn't get as good of a gas mileage as the the Avalon and or the Camry. I do agree with you with all synthetic oil for best protection, but I've been slacking a little bit in certain area.
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I just picked up 2 gallons of AMSOIL 0W20 and a couple of their filters as well. Can anyone shed some light on things like:
-Drain plug specs
-best practice for removal of old oil filter
??
I have a filter strap and some filter pliers, but I used a filter can wrench for my old vehicle and that worked well. Is the access for the camry going to allow for such a tool?
The oil brand you chosen are great, but I don't think you really need to spend that kind of money to get good protection. Mobil 1 or Castrol Syntec is fine (my prefer choice) are fine and works wonder in my experience. But then again, that's just me. Just a thought!
Hope other will chime in to help with your 2008 MY related questions.
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It looks like we all agree that synthetic oil is the best for our cars and after doing a lot of research on synthetic oils ive found that synthetic far exceeds regular dino oil by far. This is why BMW Mercedes Corvette and all high performace cars use it now from the factory using it in the transmission motor rear ends and power steering to make the cars last a life time. I heard a story that Mobil oil took 5 BMW's and put on rollers and ran them for 5 years till they reached 1 MILLION MILES and they took down the engines and found them perfect and they were still very close to spec of a new engine I pulled the heads on my 1986 Cressida after 429,000 miles and found the honing marks still on the block walls and no wear on the engine at all.
MJW3786 Ams oil is a great product I use thier filters on my 1991 lexus with 220,000 miles and I use the Mobil one synthetic oil through out the car THE ACESS TO YOUR FILTER SHOULD BE OK. If you go ahead and use ams oil it is good to 15,000 and more but change the filter at 15,000 miles. Since I have been using synthetic oil I gave up trying to wear out my engines and transmissions and power steering due to the lasting quality of synthetic oil. 500,000 miles on an toyota using synthetic oil in normal.
I bought my wife an 09 Camry, have my Mobil 1, what the mileage should be for the first oil change? First new car in 32 years!
I put Syntec on her '92 Camry (redline in the manual trans) the day after we bought it (12K & 1 yr). Just changed timing belt for the first time @180K. Synthetic may cost more, but I feel better with my wife driving with it. I parked my 78 Corolla in '03 that was still running with 275K and only used Penzoil 30W.
- Is specificially designed by Toyota for Toyotas
- Is tested and approved by Toyota
- Is formulated for specific Toyota gasoline engines (e.g. 2007 on up Camry 4 cyl)
- Improves fuel economy
BUT, no matter how good Toyota oil may be, most owners would not consider using it because is dull and boring compared to synthetics that sound special and exciting like: "Royal Purple" "Mobil One" "Pennzoil Platinum" and which make sensational claims like "lasts 15,000 miles"
My understanding is that the Toyota buys it's motor oils from Mobil via a direct ship program from supplier to dealer.
i use syn in my tundra and change it every three to six months.
average probably 1800 miles between oil changes.
any oil will do. syn is really a big waste of money. i am an oil
change nut because over the 35 years, i have found nothing
better for your engine than nice clean oil. plus, i have seven lifts
in my shop. that makes it very easy. yspert
i use syn in my tundra and change it every three to six months.
average probably 1800 miles between oil changes.
any oil will do. syn is really a big waste of money. i am an oil
change nut because over the 35 years, i have found nothing
better for your engine than nice clean oil. plus, i have seven lifts
in my shop. that makes it very easy. yspert
Yspert - I agree and disagree to an extend. If you want better protection and slightly better gas mileage, synthetic is the way to go from my personal experience. But since your oil changes interval is quite frequent and with low miles, syn would be a waste for you.
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Bulk oil with 'mfg' label is useless. Someone is brainwashed by the brand. Most automakers have multiple suppliers for their 'bottled' fluids. Lowest bid!!!!!!! And Mobil is a big time supplier to Toyota.
Any full synthetic oil for textbook oil change intervals would be great.
I use Mobil1 most of the time. The 5 quart jugs from the department store and 6 quart cases from the membership wholesale store are priced very competitively.
I stick with synthetic since my cars are left outside year round. I always hated the start up noise with mineral oils, especially during the winter.
I also can be abusive to my vehicles, and having the added protection of an oil that can take the stress(heat, negligent OCIs) is a plus.
If you are the type to change your oil every 3k or 3 months, top it off weekly as needed, never see: traffic or towing or extremely cold weather or heat waves or don't speed excessively, don't own a certified sludge monster.... then by all means, use a mineral oil. The latest ILSAC GF-4 performance spec narrowed the performance difference between mineral and synthetic oils. Make sure your mineral oil meets the GF4 spec and is in a weight that matches your driving style and weather conditions.
I would never waste my time changing my oil every 1800 miles. I don't have that much free time and don't care to waste resources.
A used oil analysis can determine if your OCI is acceptable. Anyone pushing more then 6 months or 5k miles on the OCI should do at least one UOA w/TBN to make sure you are not stressing the oil or engine.
One of my Camries requires DexronIII and the other TIV. I use Mobil1 synthetic ATF in both. I'll pull the drainplug and do a partial drain/refill usually once a year(about 7k-15k miles). I also siphon refill the PSF with the same M1 ATF.
Originally Posted by 08SalsaMax
Synthetic is too expensive for me. The advantage is that you don't have to change the fluids as often, but my thought is changing it more ofter at a lower cost is a better deal.
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Originally Posted by njerald
It is............
BS - use the better oil with a reasonable OCI- its on sale all the time -big deal
This is why BMW Mercedes Corvette and all high performace cars use it now from the factory using it in the transmission motor rear ends and power steering to make the cars last a life time.
I know BMW and Mercedes use syn, but I thought Corvette used oil made from the remains of '80s hair bands?
I use Mobil 1 synthethic 5W30 on my 04 Camry I4 and my 97 Avalon and both engines are still running strong and smooth. I have them both changed every 5-6K depending on when ever I have time to take it in. The Camry I4 now have over 133K and the Avalon have over 155K so far and both runs like new.
The new Mobil 1 0W30 is now available and I just had that changed last week on both vehicles and the engines seem to like the 0W30 even more than the 5W30. So far, I'm quite impressed with the 0W30 as the engine rev up quicker and seem to give me better gas mileage and runs quieter, too. I guess I will find out once I calculate the mileage driven after two tanks full on both vehicles.
Synthethic oil is the way to go if you want better protection, a little better gas mileage and to some (5-6K for me) longer interval between oil change.
Just a follow up report and update... After many miles of testing the new Mobil 1 0W30 on the Camry and Avalon, I've found very little difference with gas mileage on the Camry. The mileage average vary between 28.5 - 29.3 depending on driving habits etc. With that said, I went back and stayed with Mobil 1 5W30 as the engine feel much tighter with high revs. The average MPG on the 5W30 is 28.5 - 28.9 so its not much different there.
The Avalon is quite a different find though. The Mobil 1 0W30 improved the gas mileage from an average of 26.6 wtih the 5W30 to 28 - 28.5 MPG with the new oil. The difference also can be feel though more reponsive and faster reving to peak. Just to confirm the finding, I went back with 5W30 and the mileage dropped back down to average of 26.6 consistantly. This proved the 0W30 does improved on the Avalon V6 engine, but not so much with the Camry I4. And I believes it has to do with tighter tolerance with engine design of the V6 vs. the 4 cynlinder. That's just my thoughts anyway.
I'll take the mileage increase anydays.
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