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Hi guys/gals:

I was wondering what you thought of this:

2007 Toyota Tundra CrewMax SR-5 X-SP
- under 3000 km's
- 5.7 L
- 4x4
- 6 speed automatic
- Tow kit including Trans. Cooler
- Full Airbag system (front, side, curtain)
- 'Salsa Red' Exterior with Chrome Grille
- rear window slider
- 40/20/40 front seat
- 60/40 rear bench
- 6 speaker surround sound
- pw, pl, ps, pb, pm, a/c, tilt
- remote keyless
- Cold Kit including Heavy Duty battery, starter and window wiper defroster
- X-SP Tundra Package:
  • Chrome Exhaust Tip
  • Carbon Fiber Dash
  • X-SP Badges (3)
  • Leather Faced Seats w/X-SP Front Seat Embroidered Headrests
  • Carpet Mats w/ X-SP Embroidered
  • Skid Plate
  • Lumbar Support
  • Color-Keyed Fender Flares
  • Stainless Steel Step Tubes
  • 20 inch BBS Alloys wTires (Replaces 4 Factory wheels and Tires)
-Standard Warranty

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$45 500 + PST = $49 140



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Hi guys/gals:

I was wondering what you thought of this:

2007 Toyota Tundra CrewMax SR-5 X-SP
- under 3000 km's
- 5.7 L
- 4x4
- 6 speed automatic
- Tow kit including Trans. Cooler
- Full Airbag system (front, side, curtain)
- 'Salsa Red' Exterior with Chrome Grille
- rear window slider
- 40/20/40 front seat
- 60/40 rear bench
- 6 speaker surround sound
- pw, pl, ps, pb, pm, a/c, tilt
- remote keyless
- Cold Kit including Heavy Duty battery, starter and window wiper defroster
- X-SP Tundra Package:
  • Chrome Exhaust Tip
  • Carbon Fiber Dash
  • X-SP Badges (3)
  • Leather Faced Seats w/X-SP Front Seat Embroidered Headrests
  • Carpet Mats w/ X-SP Embroidered
  • Skid Plate
  • Lumbar Support
  • Color-Keyed Fender Flares
  • Stainless Steel Step Tubes
  • 20 inch BBS Alloys wTires (Replaces 4 Factory wheels and Tires)
-Standard Warranty

Price:

$45 500 + PST = $49 140


Good deal?
US truck huh? Out of country so not eligible for Toyota Canada incentives or extended warranty. And you won't get recall notices, bulletins, etc.

Sounds like the equivalent of our SR5 B package($41660 MSRP), and that "x-sp" is some made-up dealer upgrade package which might be worth 3 or 4 grand. And the truck isn't even new!

TBH I don't think that's a really good deal at all.
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Do you mean this "B Package":

MSRP
VEHICLE PRICE $45,310.00
Alloy Wheels - 20" (Tires not included) $2,958.80
Skid Plate $452.50

SUBTOTAL for Finance/Cash $48,721.30

Administration Fee Included
Documentation Charge N/C
Freight and Delivery $1,390.00
Lien Registration Fee Not Applicable
Federal Excise Tax - Air Conditioning $100.00

SUBTOTAL for Finance/Cash $50,211.30

GST (6.0%) $3,012.68
PST (8.0%) $4,016.90

TOTAL for Finance/Cash $57,240.88

I added the 20" wheels (but not including tires, apparently ) and the skid plate, as they're included on the other truck.

Is there something I'm missing? What Toyota Canada incentives are worth almost 10 grand?

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I think you should go with the x-sp package because you get a lot of stuff
for your money and kind of work the price with the sales man plan on geting
and x-sp tundra myself 2007 had and 2005 x-sp every now and then
it would ride rough in fast lane but hthat was the only time but not rough in
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Do you mean this "B Package":

MSRP VEHICLE PRICE $45,310.00
Alloy Wheels - 20" (Tires not included) $2,958.80
Skid Plate $452.50

SUBTOTAL for Finance/Cash $48,721.30

Administration Fee Included
Documentation Charge N/C
Freight and Delivery $1,390.00
Lien Registration Fee Not Applicable
Federal Excise Tax - Air Conditioning $100.00

SUBTOTAL for Finance/Cash $50,211.30

GST (6.0%) $3,012.68
PST (8.0%) $4,016.90

TOTAL for Finance/Cash $57,240.88

I added the 20" wheels (but not including tires, apparently ) and the skid plate, as they're included on the other truck.

Is there something I'm missing? What Toyota Canada incentives are worth almost 10 grand?
You're comparing to a Limited, which has a whole bunch more stuff. The truck you're looking at isn't a Limited, therefore no jbl stereo, no bluetooth, no power steering column, no moonroof, no cd changer, no memory seats, no adjustable thigh support, no compass / auto-dim mirror, no power folding mirrors, no automatic climate control, no heated seats, no sonar backup and clearance sensors, etc etc etc.

US vehicles are spec'd quite differently from what Toyota Canada imports, but you are definitely not comparing apples to apples. The truck you're looking at appears similar to a Canadian SR5 B package with aftermarket leather and other goodies added on.

I am not trying to sell you a car... I am trying to give you honest advice.

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OK, I understand your point. So, I've priced out a CrewMax Limited. Here is a description of the Limited:

Mechanical
18" Alloy Wheels w/P275/65R18 Tires - 381HP/401 Lb-Ft 5.7L DOHC 32V V8 w/VVT-i - 6-Spd Automatic Trans w/Sequential Shift - Automatic Limited Slip Diff (Auto LSD) - Coil Over Shock Double A-Arm Front Susp - Engine Immobilizer, Cruise Control - GVWR = 7000 lbs. Payload = 1585 lbs. - Multi-Leaf Trapezoidal Rear Suspension - Tow Equip/Capacity: Tow Cap=10,400 lbs. Hitch Receiver, Supplemental A/T Cooler, 4.30 Rear Diff w/10.5" Ring Gear, 150A Alternator, A/T Temp Gauge, 7 Pin Connector, Trailer Brake Prewire - TripleTech Frame: Fully-boxed Fr Section Reinforced C Under Cab, Open C Under Bed

Safety

Dr & Fr Pass Advanced Airbags/Seat Side Airbags/3 pt Seatbelts w/Pretensioners & Force Limiters - Roll-Sensing Curtain Airbags (RSCA) - STAR Safety: Pwr Assist 4 Wheel Disc ABS w/Electronic Brakeforce Distrib (EBD), Brake Assist, Vehicle Stability Control with Traction Control (VSC+TRAC) - Tire Pressure monitoring System

Exterior

Chrome Grille/Door Handles/Outer Mirrors - Color-keyed Fr Bumper/Chrome Rr Bumper - Deck Rail System w/4 Adj Tie-Down Cleats - Double-Walled Bed w/Tailgate Assist - Fog lamps - Pwr Vertical Rr Window w/Privacy Glass

Comfort and Convenience

Auto Dual Zone Climate Cntrl w/Sync Mode - Center Console w/Laptop & File Storage - JBL AM/FM 6-CD, 12 Spkrs, Aux Audio Jack - Leather Trim Pwr Heated Front Buckets - Power Windows/Door Locks/Mirrors - Pwr Memory Seats/Outside Mirrs/Strng Whl - Pwr Tilt/Tele Strng Wheel w/Audio Cntrls - Remote Keyless & Anti-Theft Alarm System - Slide and Recline 60/40 Rear Bench Seat

Options
Front/Rear Mudguards - Stainless Steel Step Board - Daytime Running Lamps - Bedliner - Power Tilt/Slide Moonroof - TRD Offroad Package - OFAT Suspension - DVD Navigation with Backup Monitor - Cold Kit - Carpet Mats

Price
$51 650 + PST = $55782


MSRP as per Toyota.ca:

SUBTOTAL for Finance/Cash $58,105.00

GST (6.0%) $3,486.30
PST (8.0%) $4,648.40

TOTAL for Finance/Cash $66,239.70

Both trucks have the same Standard Factory Warranty from Toyota Canada.

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I am thinking the X-SP tundra you can just about get every thing a
limited has just cheaper because I have been geting a lot of good advice
on witich one I should get and you can put all that stuff on a X-SP if
not all go to toyota.com and do a build your own truck.
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OK, I understand your point. So, I've priced out a CrewMax Limited. Here is a description of the Limited:

Mechanical
18" Alloy Wheels w/P275/65R18 Tires - 381HP/401 Lb-Ft 5.7L DOHC 32V V8 w/VVT-i - 6-Spd Automatic Trans w/Sequential Shift - Automatic Limited Slip Diff (Auto LSD) - Coil Over Shock Double A-Arm Front Susp - Engine Immobilizer, Cruise Control - GVWR = 7000 lbs. Payload = 1585 lbs. - Multi-Leaf Trapezoidal Rear Suspension - Tow Equip/Capacity: Tow Cap=10,400 lbs. Hitch Receiver, Supplemental A/T Cooler, 4.30 Rear Diff w/10.5" Ring Gear, 150A Alternator, A/T Temp Gauge, 7 Pin Connector, Trailer Brake Prewire - TripleTech Frame: Fully-boxed Fr Section Reinforced C Under Cab, Open C Under Bed

Safety
Dr & Fr Pass Advanced Airbags/Seat Side Airbags/3 pt Seatbelts w/Pretensioners & Force Limiters - Roll-Sensing Curtain Airbags (RSCA) - STAR Safety: Pwr Assist 4 Wheel Disc ABS w/Electronic Brakeforce Distrib (EBD), Brake Assist, Vehicle Stability Control with Traction Control (VSC+TRAC) - Tire Pressure monitoring System

Exterior
Chrome Grille/Door Handles/Outer Mirrors - Color-keyed Fr Bumper/Chrome Rr Bumper - Deck Rail System w/4 Adj Tie-Down Cleats - Double-Walled Bed w/Tailgate Assist - Fog lamps - Pwr Vertical Rr Window w/Privacy Glass

Comfort and Convenience
Auto Dual Zone Climate Cntrl w/Sync Mode - Center Console w/Laptop & File Storage - JBL AM/FM 6-CD, 12 Spkrs, Aux Audio Jack - Leather Trim Pwr Heated Front Buckets - Power Windows/Door Locks/Mirrors - Pwr Memory Seats/Outside Mirrs/Strng Whl - Pwr Tilt/Tele Strng Wheel w/Audio Cntrls - Remote Keyless & Anti-Theft Alarm System - Slide and Recline 60/40 Rear Bench Seat

Options
Front/Rear Mudguards - Stainless Steel Step Board - Daytime Running Lamps - Bedliner - Power Tilt/Slide Moonroof - TRD Offroad Package - OFAT Suspension - DVD Navigation with Backup Monitor - Cold Kit - Carpet Mats

Price
$51 650 + PST = $55782


MSRP as per Toyota.ca:

SUBTOTAL for Finance/Cash $58,105.00

GST (6.0%) $3,486.30
PST (8.0%) $4,648.40

TOTAL for Finance/Cash $66,239.70

Both trucks have the same Standard Factory Warranty from Toyota Canada.

What do you think?
I think that the truck you're looking at is nowhere near equivalent to a Limited. It is a SR5 b package with some cheap add-ons.
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I think that the truck you're looking at is nowhere near equivalent to a Limited. It is a SR5 b package with some cheap add-ons.
Just for fun, I went to Toyota.ca

I selected a Crewmax SR5 with the B package

I added:
20 inch wheels
block heater
exhaust tip
skid plate
all season floor mats

I got a price of $45,477, then the freight, taxes etc.

The price for this XSP is about the same, but it seems to me there's more bling.
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I think that the truck you're looking at is nowhere near equivalent to a Limited. It is a SR5 b package with some cheap add-ons.

OK, then can you enlighten me with what is included in the 'Limited' package that you offer, as well as a quote?
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OK, then can you enlighten me with what is included in the 'Limited' package that you offer, as well as a quote?
See post above yours...


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The price for this XSP is about the same, but it seems to me there's more bling.
So basically you're going to pay about the same amount of money for a used out of country truck that you would for the same thing new at a Canadian dealer.

I already posted a partial list of what the Limited comes with that your "X-SP" doesn't.

But hey if it makes you happy, go ahead and buy it.
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... jbl stereo, no bluetooth, no power steering column, no moonroof, no cd changer, no memory seats, no adjustable thigh support, no compass / auto-dim mirror, no power folding mirrors, no automatic climate control, no heated seats, no sonar backup and clearance sensors...
These options? Because the 2nd price I got does have these options, plus Navigation...

Its not a used truck - its brand new as well....

And yes, I'd be willing to buy a truck in the US for 10 grand less than what I'd pay in Canada.
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These options? Because the 2nd price I got does have these options, plus Navigation...

Its not a used truck - its brand new as well....

And yes, I'd be willing to buy a truck in the US for 10 grand less than what I'd pay in Canada.

Maybe I was not being clear. The x-sp truck you are considering is not the equivalent to the Limited that you priced out. Not even close. It is the equivalent of an SR5 b pkg with a few cheesy bolt-on extras. It is not 10 grand less than what you'd pay in Canada. Your original post asked if this was a good deal. I replied that it is not a good deal... then you decided to be confrontational about it.

To match the equipment of the X-SP in Canada you would have to buy an SR5 b-package:

$43353.00 plus taxes (includes freight, pdi, block heater, air and tire levies)

and add:

Chrome exhaust tip: $88
Fake carbon fiber dash: $200
Aftermarket leather: ~$2000
Skid Plate $444
Fender flares $500(?)
Side step tubes $688
20" wheels... Don't know about your local store, but we have stacks of 20" take-offs from Limiteds. Our motorsports department charges $499.00 to upgrade from the stock 18" alloys.

Total: $47772.00 plus taxes to buy a new Tundra with the same crap from a Canadian dealer that doesn't have 3000Kms on it. And that's if you pay FULL LIST. And you'll have better resale, full warranty support, etc.

Explain to me how you are saving 10 grand?
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And the Limited? What options are included on a Tundra Limited CrewMax in Canada, and what is the Invoice?

BTW, I'm not being confrontational. I'm responding to your initial "not comparing apples to apples". Which is what I would like to do, but you haven't stated what I'd pay for a Limited in Canada. I'm all for getting the best deal out there, regardless of American or Canadian origin.
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And the Limited? What options are included on a Tundra Limited CrewMax in Canada, and what is the Invoice?

BTW, I'm not being confrontational. I'm responding to your initial "not comparing apples to apples". Which is what I would like to do, but you haven't stated what I'd pay for a Limited in Canada. I'm all for getting the best deal out there, regardless of American or Canadian origin.
Ah I see... If you can genuinely save 10 grand getting a US truck then go for it... just make sure you're comparing the same thing. If the equipment is the same and it comes down to 1 or 2 thousand then I would say buy local and save yourself a lot of grief.

Limited Crewmax with nav in Canada stickers at 56798 plus taxes. And a bit of haggling could probably save you a couple thousand. On the American one you were quoted $51650.00.

If it does have the same equipment as the Canadian spec then yes I'd say that's a pretty good deal
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