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Is there any product that I can use on my hose for hard water? Even after I dry the truck I still get hard water marks all over the truck and the bed ends up looking like crap from where the water lays in it.
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Is there any product that I can use on my hose for hard water? Even after I dry the truck I still get hard water marks all over the truck and the bed ends up looking like crap from where the water lays in it.

Yeah, check autogeek, they have a filter system that is supposed to work very well. Its pricey at well over $100, but it works.

I'll try to find the link for you.

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Yeah, check autogeek, they have a filter system that is supposed to work very well. Its pricey at well over $100, but it works.

I'll try to find the link for you.

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Here is something that might be a little cheaper:

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Brandon? What's your input on this?
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Is there any product that I can use on my hose for hard water? Even after I dry the truck I still get hard water marks all over the truck and the bed ends up looking like crap from where the water lays in it.
This has changed everything for me, especially in the summer months when the sun is higher in the sky. I dont have to rush to get up super early to get started anymore. No water spots at all.

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Brandon? What's your input on this?

Honestly, you get what you pay for in detailing (most of the time lol). That looks like an extremely inexpensive product that wont provide much result.

To the O.P.-dont forget that another step to preventing water spots from damaging paint is to keep the truck waxed/sealed.
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Honestly, you get what you pay for in detailing (most of the time lol). That looks like an extremely inexpensive product that wont provide much result.

To the O.P.-dont forget that another step to preventing water spots from damaging paint is to keep the truck waxed/sealed.
What about those Mr. Clean autodry systems?
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Same thing, they simply dont last, and the filter is adequate at best.
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Yeah I've tried that mr clean junk its in the trash it worked good the first time then after that I changed filters and everything just not worth all the hassle.
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Default Re: Hard water??

Well I ordered one of the water filter set ups from autogeek and should have it next week. Hopefully this is going to help me solve my problem. Once I get it hooked up and get to try it a few times I'll post again and let everyone know how it worked out.
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Well I finally got my filter and got it hooked up today. What a difference!!! It's amazing how much better it dried with the "soft" water. I only had to do a little bit of drying and had almost no spots at all. My next purchase though is going to be a compressor blow out all the cracks and crevices so that everytime I open or close or a door for the next hour after I wash I don't have water running out or dripping.

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Default Re: Hard water??

I saw this post too late, but the system with the water softener is what I would have recommended too. The water here in central TX is very hard too, and most people have a whole-house water softener installed. We do as well, but I generally don't bother hooking up my hose to it.

A couple of tricks: Never wash your car in the sun. The water evaporates so fast that water sports are almost impossible to avoid. I wash mine very early in the morning, or as the sun is about to set.

Now as far as some of the other systems are concerned - deionized water (DI) is ideal, but you can't recharge the filters yourself (unless you want to mess with concentrated hydrochloric acid and caustic lye). That means that you'll constantly be buying replacement filters, and those aren't cheap. They may not last a long time either, depending on how many ions need to be removed. I'm pretty sure that the Mister Clean product is basically a cheapo DI system. With DI and an integrated filter, you could theoretically let your car air dry, as there's nothing left in the water to deposit itself on your car's paint once the water evaporates.

The water softener you ordered should do the trick. It's basically an ion exchanger. The resin bed is charged with sodium ions, and when hard water with lots of dissolved magnesium and/or calcium flows through the resin bed, the sodium ions release and attracts the hard minerals. After a while, the resin bed becomes saturated and needs to be recharged. This happens automatically with our whole-house unit which is filled with several hundred pounds of salt, and it looks like your little filter unit can be done manually. The concentrated brine solution "re-activates" the resin bed for use. How long between recharging depends on how hard your water is, and how much you use.

There - all you ever wanted to know about water softeners.
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