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Default Porter Cable vs. Standard 10" Buffer

I am looking into purchasing a Porter Cable 7424 and was wondering what the major differences are between the PC and the standard 10” orbital buffer. I am sure the quality of the PC is much better, but are the higher and variable speed settings on the PC what sets it apart?

I plan on using the PC 7424 for my polishing/waxing my vehicles as well as removing light oxidation from my boat. The pros typically use high speed polishers with compound to remove oxidation from boats (and cars as well). Will the orbital Porter Cable be able to do this or will I have to step up to the high speed polisher? I am just a little leery of using the high speed polisher and burning the paint on my truck or the gelcoat on my boat.

I guess what I am trying to get at is that I already have a Ryobi 10” orbital….is the orbital Porter Cable that much more functional to justify the price? They both are orbital buffers, the 10" just operates at a lower, single speed.
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I cant help you with the orbital buffers, but if you do step up to a higher variable speed buffer just start slow and apply light pressure. The faster and more pressure the more likely you are to start burning the paint. Keep it slow light pressure and keep it moving. Dont work just one spot. You want a little heat but not much. Going slow may take longer but atleast your on the safe side. As you get more comfortable you may want to speed up a little or add pressure. Just keep the pad flat as well and not up on the edge. Watchout for edges of fenders and doors b/c there isnt as much clear build up on them and will burn through quicker. Some put masking tape about 1/16 in on each edge. Also the edge of a new pad can be very dangerous if you happen to nick something with it. It will burn that paint of quick so just keep an eye on that as well. Now after all those warnings hope I didn't scare ya.
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Default Re: Porter Cable vs. Standard 10" Buffer

autogeek.com has some great tutorial videos with the PC 7424 on their site.
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Default Re: Porter Cable vs. Standard 10" Buffer

If you are talking about orbital vs. orbital, then I don't know where the difference would be, as they don't do that much. If you are talking about a real buffer, then a name brand like the Porter would probably be much better. I am a former detailer and have had a Milwaukee for about 15 years, and it's completely wonderful. If you are talking about a true buffer (not just an orbital), and have never used one, then I suggest practicing on something that you don't care about. A junkyard hood or trunk comes to mind. You can really screw up good paint if you don't know what you are doing. Pay careful attention to the polish and pads that you use and tailor them to the application.
I apologize if this is not the type of question you are asking, but I've seen many a novice screw up and buy a real buffer, only to foul up their paint. I would imagine that a Porter Cable polisher is a serious tool. It isn't that difficult, but should be practiced on junk before using on something nice.
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If you are talking about orbital vs. orbital, then I don't know where the difference would be, as they don't do that much. If you are talking about a real buffer, then a name brand like the Porter would probably be much better. I am a former detailer and have had a Milwaukee for about 15 years, and it's completely wonderful. If you are talking about a true buffer (not just an orbital), and have never used one, then I suggest practicing on something that you don't care about. A junkyard hood or trunk comes to mind. You can really screw up good paint if you don't know what you are doing. Pay careful attention to the polish and pads that you use and tailor them to the application.
I apologize if this is not the type of question you are asking, but I've seen many a novice screw up and buy a real buffer, only to foul up their paint. I would imagine that a Porter Cable polisher is a serious tool. It isn't that difficult, but should be practiced on junk before using on something nice.

I am really trying to compare the Porter Cable 7424 with the generic 10" buffer. I am sure the PC is a nicer tool, but being that both are orbital buffers, other than the variable speed option on the Porter Cable 7424, what is the major difference?

I am trying to figure out if I should get the PC or stick with my Ryobi 10" buffer and get a high speed polisher.
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hi, if you need to buff out your vehicle. than you most likely need a paint job. because todays vehciles have very little paint. and the so called clear coat that as the dealership will tell you never needs wax. BS!
will be oxidiezed and flake, off, fade off, etc.

no matter what you use, if it is faded already , and you decide to buff it with any type of buffer orbital, or high speed. you need a paint job.

WHY? it will fade right back out, in a month or so. guarenteed.
there is no fixed faded, flaking clear coat, once it's gone it gone.

but go ahead try it.
no one needs a buffer these days on the new paint, if you do, you allowed you paint to go to long before a wax job, now it's faded, and started to go bad.

like i have said before very 4 washes ,wax your vehicle, with any kind of wax. it's better than no wax at all. and please don't use that wash & wax liquid soap BS stuff.

yes, there are excellant waxes out there. but if you wax on a regular basis, than any wax will do.
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The main difference is the performance of the machine. The PC will correct defects and create a higher gloss than a 10" buffer.

They are not even in the same category. Its like comparing a bicycle to a AMG Benz.
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hi, if you need to buff out your vehicle. than you most likely need a paint job. because todays vehciles have very little paint. and the so called clear coat that as the dealership will tell you never needs wax. BS!
will be oxidiezed and flake, off, fade off, etc.

no matter what you use, if it is faded already , and you decide to buff it with any type of buffer orbital, or high speed. you need a paint job.

WHY? it will fade right back out, in a month or so. guarenteed.
there is no fixed faded, flaking clear coat, once it's gone it gone.

but go ahead try it.
no one needs a buffer these days on the new paint, if you do, you allowed you paint to go to long before a wax job, now it's faded, and started to go bad.

like i have said before very 4 washes ,wax your vehicle, with any kind of wax. it's better than no wax at all. and please don't use that wash & wax liquid soap BS stuff.

yes, there are excellant waxes out there. but if you wax on a regular basis, than any wax will do.
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False, please dont take this advice. I dont mean to be a butt about this, but nothing you have stated has any merit or truth.
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The main difference is the performance of the machine. The PC will correct defects and create a higher gloss than a 10" buffer.

They are not even in the same category. Its like comparing a bicycle to a AMG Benz.
Thanks. So the PC 7424 is a good tool to use for polishing/compounding as well as waxing?

You have sportfish in your avatar, ever use the Porter Cable on a boat?
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Yeah, it's good for everything. You should read my stickies at the top of the page.

Fine for boats as well, although for older faded gelcoat, you will need a high speed rotary.
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hi, if you need to buff out your vehicle. than you most likely need a paint job. because todays vehciles have very little paint. and the so called clear coat that as the dealership will tell you never needs wax. BS!
will be oxidiezed and flake, off, fade off, etc.

no matter what you use, if it is faded already , and you decide to buff it with any type of buffer orbital, or high speed. you need a paint job.

WHY? it will fade right back out, in a month or so. guarenteed.
there is no fixed faded, flaking clear coat, once it's gone it gone.

but go ahead try it.
no one needs a buffer these days on the new paint, if you do, you allowed you paint to go to long before a wax job, now it's faded, and started to go bad.

like i have said before very 4 washes ,wax your vehicle, with any kind of wax. it's better than no wax at all. and please don't use that wash & wax liquid soap BS stuff.

yes, there are excellant waxes out there. but if you wax on a regular basis, than any wax will do.
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The main difference is the performance of the machine. The PC will correct defects and create a higher gloss than a 10" buffer.

They are not even in the same category. Its like comparing a bicycle to a AMG Benz.
Brandon,
I had the 10" buffer once and the PC one of it's biggest points is the range of buffing pads and compounds that are opened up to use with this machine,
also the size and weight being much less it handle a lot easier and is way more effective.
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Oh definitely, it's night and day difference in the 2.
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hi, if you need to buff out your vehicle. than you most likely need a paint job. because todays vehciles have very little paint. and the so called clear coat that as the dealership will tell you never needs wax. BS!
will be oxidiezed and flake, off, fade off, etc.

no matter what you use, if it is faded already , and you decide to buff it with any type of buffer orbital, or high speed. you need a paint job.

WHY? it will fade right back out, in a month or so. guarenteed.
there is no fixed faded, flaking clear coat, once it's gone it gone.

but go ahead try it.
no one needs a buffer these days on the new paint, if you do, you allowed you paint to go to long before a wax job, now it's faded, and started to go bad.

like i have said before very 4 washes ,wax your vehicle, with any kind of wax. it's better than no wax at all. and please don't use that wash & wax liquid soap BS stuff.

yes, there are excellant waxes out there. but if you wax on a regular basis, than any wax will do.
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