Car Cleaner Wax After Sealant?

[mdlab]

To get an "extra" shine I've read the advice about going with a carnuaba on top of a sealant. Just clayed and applied sealant last weekend and very pleased with outcome. Don't have any pure carnuaba on hand but do have both Mother's and Meguiar's car cleaner waxes w/carnuaba in the garage. Understand the difference and that carnuaba is superior, just wondering if a car cleaner wax would "cut" and strip off the sealant? Appreciate any advice.

[Brandon1]

Yes, the cleaner wax will strip the sealant. Head to your local harley dealership and pick up some S100. It's a "pure" carnauba and it works very well. Or a local Napa may have Meguiars #26.

[ahowudoin]

What kind of paint sealant did you use? I tried to have the dealer do it,But they told me "it has so many coats of clear,you don't need it" I know that's a bunch of crap. All it takes is a bird crap one time in the sun on the hot black paint and it eats in to it. I am always going out on poop patrol at work.My buddy at work didn't believe me until his 03 tundra got hit. It stains the clear coat.

[Brandon1]

A good sealant will protect for a day or so of bird poo being left on the car, but it's not a perm fix. Removing the bird stuff asap is best.

[csawyer]

This may sound a little anal, but when I used to have a job that required my truck to be parked all day, I'd go out every few hours and check it for bird crap. Back then, I had a truck with a 3-stage pearl paint job. I always kept a little bottle of spray detailer and some soft towels on hand to remove it asap.

[shawn74]

Don't believe any of those, 1 year sealant ads. Even the best sealants out there will lose their effectiveness after 4 to 6 months. Using anything other than 100% carnuba will have and adverse affect on the sealant. Best rule of thumb is to apply your sealant, make sure you let it cure the proper amount of time. I believe some say 12 hours others say 24. I usually wait 12 and then hit it with a second coat. After another 12 I use a good quality carnuba wax. For me, I like using Poorboys EX-P and then follow up with some PB Natty Blue. I've been very happy with the outcome on my Spectra Blue Tundra. Good luck and happy detailing.

[kaleo]

I know Brandon and others can vouch for this brand, but I would suggest trying out the Duragloss line of sealants. Other detail forums and from personal use show that a combo of DG 501 as a base, then top with 105 looks amazing especially if you have a white vehicle!

501 is the same as 105 except on steroids...sealant down first then top with a nuba of your choice. I won't recommend a specific one because for me personally, i've opted to shell out the bucks and went with the higher end waxes. Currently i've done the 501/105 base and topped it off with SwissVax waxes. I didn't use sealants for the past few months because i'm doing a personal carnuba wax test of all types of nubas out there, but since we are having a hurricane that has touched down on the big island yesterday and moving its way up, i figure beef up the protection.

Anyways, duragloss is a cheap product that performs extremely well for the price. Either that or JumboJet's favorite 1Z line, try Glanz Wax. Depending on who you ask, it's a sealant or a wax. That things smells and looks like acetone and applies in a liquid form but hazes like a wax. I have had good results with that here in tropical climate for about 3 weeks solid.

Just some food for thought! I'll check my notes to see what combos I have used that have showed me great results and will post if you want.

[clarks]

Originally Posted by kaleo

I know Brandon and others can vouch for this brand, but I would suggest trying out the Duragloss line of sealants. Other detail forums and from personal use show that a combo of DG 501 as a base, then top with 105 looks amazing especially if you have a white vehicle!

501 is the same as 105 except on steroids...sealant down first then top with a nuba of your choice. I won't recommend a specific one because for me personally, i've opted to shell out the bucks and went with the higher end waxes. Currently i've done the 501/105 base and topped it off with SwissVax waxes. I didn't use sealants for the past few months because i'm doing a personal carnuba wax test of all types of nubas out there, but since we are having a hurricane that has touched down on the big island yesterday and moving its way up, i figure beef up the protection.

Anyways, duragloss is a cheap product that performs extremely well for the price. Either that or JumboJet's favorite 1Z line, try Glanz Wax. Depending on who you ask, it's a sealant or a wax. That things smells and looks like acetone and applies in a liquid form but hazes like a wax. I have had good results with that here in tropical climate for about 3 weeks solid.

Just some food for thought! I'll check my notes to see what combos I have used that have showed me great results and will post if you want.

Your using DG505 & 105 & then putting another wax on after 105? What is the point of that? I that 105 was a last step product (sealant).
Will dg652 & 105 (its what I'm currently using on my first run) do the same as 505/105 or is the latter a better combo?

[Brandon1]

A typical course for a detailer is to use a "All in One" polish (the 652 or 501) then use a pure sealant ( 105 ). Then if more depth is required you can put a carnuba wax over the sealant.

[clarks]

How long do you guys spend detailing a car, Shiut!?
Brandon, if you recall I wasn't too happy with my results using the PG & the Pinnacle products on the old sequoia I bought. I tried it again with the DG products (652; orange pad) & even did some areas 2 times. I did notice the haze was reduced significantly. I just can't imagine all these steps you guys use & how long it must take.

[shawn74]

It's a labor of love. If I'm doing a complete detail on the exterior it usually takes me about 4-6 hours. To detail interior and exterior is about 8 hours. I'm a freak though, I take seats out, pull tires and clean both sides of rim, ect. I think my wife gets a little jealous at times.

[docbyrum]

I just had the dealership apply a sealant and now my 5 day old tundra has swirls all over it. i wish i would have just stuck with the clear coat.

[shawn74]

Yea I know what you mean. Every time I get my oil changed at the dealer they want to wash my truck. I always tell them not to get their dirt filled rags near my paint, thank you very much. They finally got the point when I told them to update my record with a request to NEVER wash my truck. Get your self a PC and some good polish and your paint will be back to it's dealer shine.

[zeeya2000]

Has anyone tried the zano products? I used on my black Avalanche, but of course that was 2002 and technology is ever so fast in passing up older items. It really worked well and I had no problems with swirls and in South Louisiana I would get a few months in between coats.

[Brandon1]

Zaino is a fine product, and it seems it worked best for you. From them, I only like Z5PRO and Z-8. Anything else, IMO, you can get cheaper from different distributors.