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Jumbo/Brandon-I just went thru the process of waxing my tacoma.
Step 1-DG #652 w/PC on 5; orange pad
Step 2-DG #105 w/PC on 5; white pad
Because my paint was in very good shape w/just a little haze, I ran the 1st step for only 2 minutes a section. After I was done, I noticed some of the hazing still remained. So my ? is this-do you really need to spend 5 minutes per 2x2 area in order to remove haze; regardless of severity?
Also- I used the 652 by hand a few wks back to get the roof done & out of the way. It was a complete nightmare to remove. What causes that? I let it sit to long or too short, or this product is really meant for a PC?
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You should spend as much time per section until youre satisfied with the results, that may sometimes mean longer if necessary, or quite the opposite and the area only requires a quick pass.

Do you have any Klasse AIO on hand? I would run a pass over the hazy area with AIO and a white pad and PC on 4, then your 105 with a black pad and PC on 4. Try applying your final sealants with a black finishing pad instead of the white pad.

I have only used 105 a few times, it was a bottle that Brandon traded me, but I always applied it with a black finishing pad and never had any issues with hazing or trouble removing it.
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I had no problems with the 105. It removes nicely. My problem is with 652. It doesn't seem to make the paint 'pop' as well as I'd like & can be a pain to remove. I guess in short, what would be a good alternative to this product where I could still use 105? I like the durability of 105.

Is Klasse AIO a precleaner that helps with hazing & also gets the wetness look?
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Yes, replace the 652 with Klasse AIO. It's a chemical cleaner and just about everything bonds to it. I use AIO with a white pad and PC on 4. I do the whole car then come back to my starting point and remove with a monster fluffy.
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I will get some Klasse AIO & test this as my new haze & swirl remover.
Does it do anything to apply the 105 or any sealant for that matter with a pc? I thought in Brandon's write up it said all you have to do is rub it on & it will seal. It seems to me the long PC use (for each section) is what is taking me so long to clean & wax my truck.
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I use the PC to apply ALL of my liquid sealants, it goes so much quicker and you get more of an even coat. Paste sealants/waxes have to be by hand, but for liquid thats the quickest way.

Use a black or blue finishing pad, give it a light spritz of detail spray to help it spread and then apply the 105 to the pad, I like to spin the pad by hand and then squirt it on so I get a nice even circle..... but little dabs will do as well. I'll put the PC on 4 and just quickly go over a section, reload the pad and go to the next section. Youre not polishing at this point so only a few seconds are needed per section to cover the panel. You'll quickly notice how nice and even this technique covers the panel with your sealant. It should take you less than 5 minutes to apply a sealant with the PC. I let the sealant flash and then remove with a monster fluffy.

Try the Klasse, I think you'll like that a lot better. Super easy to work with.
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I need to take 652 out of the writeup now that you guys are ordering online
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Are you guys removing the products with your PC or by hand?
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Are you guys removing the products with your PC or by hand?
Remove by hand, wool/cotton bonnets clog up and dont do a very good good job at removing anything.

I use a Monster Fluffy for removing sealants and polishes. Prima Monster Fluffy In my opinion its the best microfiber towel on the market for removing waxes/sealants. If they made them into sheets, I'd sleep on it.
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If they made them into sheets, I'd sleep on it.

That was awesome.

I did a full detail this weekend, wash, clay, cleaner,polish and wax. I used the 652 to clean with a white pad, seemed to do the trick; but I am going to get some AIO ASAP. As far as applying your sealent with the black pad versus the white; what a difference. I used the black this time and it buffed of way easier, is it because the black pad applies a thinner coat? I swear, the 105 I used came off with no effort.

What would really help me is if someone could outline what they use for each step, right from the wash to the LSP. I know Brandon did a write up, but it seems like he is using different products now. Plus, I dont always know what works with what and the various stages. What the heck a glaze is, I have no idea...

I appreciate the detailing forum (my wallet doesnt), you guys are all so helpful.
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The problem with that flames, is there are SOOOOO many good products out there that will give you a great finish when you are done. i could post what I use, and it could not have a SINGLE product that brandon and jumbo use, but give the same results in the end. The absolute best thing, is try and read as many reviews on products as you can, and pick the best one that you think will suit your needs. There are several online detailing forums that have product review sections. If you do a search in them, I am betting you will find darn near any product made that has been reviewed a couple times.

Also, another place to look is in their "show and shine" sections. This is where people show cars they detailed, and normally give a list of products that they used. You may be able to find a car with the same color paint, so you can see what those products can do to that particular color.

I am sorry to not be much help, but hopefully you understand where I am coming from. The biggest problem about detailing products is that there is no "one size fits all" thing. There are some products that most people RAVE about, that I have found just didnt suit me at all, and vise versa. The only sure fire way to find the best product for YOU..... is to try the different ones, and pick the one that suits you.

You can sometimes find samples of products for sale, that come in smaller sizes. This offers a great way to try it out, without committing to the product fully.
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The problem with that flames, is there are SOOOOO many good products out there that will give you a great finish when you are done. i could post what I use, and it could not have a SINGLE product that brandon and jumbo use, but give the same results in the end. The absolute best thing, is try and read as many reviews on products as you can, and pick the best one that you think will suit your needs. There are several online detailing forums that have product review sections. If you do a search in them, I am betting you will find darn near any product made that has been reviewed a couple times.

Also, another place to look is in their "show and shine" sections. This is where people show cars they detailed, and normally give a list of products that they used. You may be able to find a car with the same color paint, so you can see what those products can do to that particular color.

I am sorry to not be much help, but hopefully you understand where I am coming from. The biggest problem about detailing products is that there is no "one size fits all" thing. There are some products that most people RAVE about, that I have found just didnt suit me at all, and vise versa. The only sure fire way to find the best product for YOU..... is to try the different ones, and pick the one that suits you.

You can sometimes find samples of products for sale, that come in smaller sizes. This offers a great way to try it out, without committing to the product fully.
That is good advice, I will do that.

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I'm sure this has probably been posted in here before, but what do you guys recommend for removing the stubborn wax residue from body gaps and molding pieces? Since I do all my detailing in the garage, I can make the vehicles look great inside and to the average person, look great in the sun too, but a little of that #$%&^%# residue sticks out like a sore thumb to me as soon as I see my vehicles out in the sunlight.
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I'm sure this has probably been posted in here before, but what do you guys recommend for removing the stubborn wax residue from body gaps and molding pieces? Since I do all my detailing in the garage, I can make the vehicles look great inside and to the average person, look great in the sun too, but a little of that #$%&^%# residue sticks out like a sore thumb to me as soon as I see my vehicles out in the sunlight.

creamy Peanut Butter will take off all of that dried up wax off of your plastic trim pieces and moulding. Its an old detailers trick but it gets all that stuff right out. I just use a paper towel and lightly rub the area with just a dab of peanut butter....... works every time.
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