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    I'd telephone Meguiar's and ask about the spiderwebbing----1-800-347-5700. You don't necessarily have to use their products, but from the descriptions at www.meguiars.com you can find other brands of products that do a similar job.

    I take a different tack from TRDKEAU. I don't want to spend that much time working on my car & truck's finishes. I use a car shampoo in the wash water, and twice a year (sometimes I'm lazy and wax once a year) I do a two-step process...Meguiar's Medallion cleaner and one of Meguiar's topcoats...Mediallion Paint Protection, or #20 Polymer Sealant, or maybe the new NXT Wax. If I want an easy one-step process, I use Nu-Finish or something like Meguiar's #6 Cleaner/Wax.

    I know, stuff like Nu-Finish contains abrasives and doesn't give a good a shine as a product like Blackfire or Zaino, but is sure is easy, looks darned good, and lasts about a year. I always use Nu-Finish on the wheels, anyway. I use 303-protectant on the vinyl, inside & out, and would use it on the tires if I bothered with them. Use your vinyl dressing on the exterior vinyl trim before you polish and wax, and it'll minimize the white stuff on the vinyl. 303 is the least glossy product I've found for the dash. Lexol Vinylex is my 2nd favorite for interior vinyl, and I use Lexol leather stuff for the seats. If the leather is really bad, I use Harness Honey

    I'm now maintaining four vehicles in the family fleet. I may start buying car finish products from a place like http://www.detailsupplyoutlet.com/index.htm


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    Those tips ive only done once, and it took along time! Ive done many times to customers cars in my teenage detailing years, I personally only use Eagle one wax as you dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueRanger
    Here is a CLK 430 i did with #83 and a PC, the specs you see are ash from the SD fires, but the product speaks for itself.
    Wow, that looks great. I'll have to try that on JnEsMomma's Camry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRDKEAU
    use a mitt, you dont need soap, dry with a chamois. .
    Im gonna have to disagree with you here, you DO NEED SOAP when washing your car, that is the whole point. Soaps main purpose is to provide lubricancy between your sponge and the dirt on your trucks paint surface, so you can lift the dirt off the surface without marring the paint. If your just wiping it down with a mitt and water, in essence you are just rubbing the dirt into your paint and creating more swirl marks. Soap is one of the main keys to avoid spiderwebbing, the more slick your soap is, the better.
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    And to reinforce the 2 sponge method, look at my rinse bucked on a rather clean car, this thing really wasnt that dirty! Now, would you really want to dip into that rinse bucket and rub more dirt into your cars paint? I didnt think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueRanger
    Im gonna have to disagree with you here, you DO NEED SOAP when washing your car, that is the whole point. Soaps main purpose is to provide lubricancy between your sponge and the dirt on your trucks paint surface, so you can lift the dirt off the surface without marring the paint. If your just wiping it down with a mitt and water, in essence you are just rubbing the dirt into your paint and creating more swirl marks. Soap is one of the main keys to avoid spiderwebbing, the more slick your soap is, the better.
    that all depends on 3 things....

    1. how dirty your truck is.

    2. what kind of wash mitt, sponge you use.

    3. type of soap

    If youve just been booging or have caked mud on your truck, soap should be used to break up mud and dirt cake. Weekly california washing, no big deal. The surface of the mitt will cause more spider webbing than anything else. Drive thrus, brushes ,and coarse sponges are notorious for swirls.

    Soap is a good lube, but keeping the truck wet while washing and rinsing is the biggest concern. De-ionized is key, especially on hot days. Soap has a few problems...

    1. if it dries, leaves residue.

    2. if it hardens, just as bad as hard water spots or any other caked surfaces.

    3. ALWAYS use liquid soap.. 2 drops of dawn will do wonders, any powder detergent will likely scratch you paint sometimes down to the clear coat.

    And even when you take all the steps to preventing spider webbing, it will still happen eventually. Meguiars, mothers and 3m make great swirl polish that should take out your webs.

    Im done talking about detailing, i like leaving my truck dirty.

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    I agree with blue ranger, I always use soap on my truck, ALWAYS. I mainly use carwashing soap, as dawn will not provide sheeting action and it will ruin your wax. I am pretty good at washing and polishing cars, but I diddent know if swirl polish would get rid of spiderwebbing. Thanks, I will go pick up some meguiers #83 this weekend.
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    I would recomend #82 over #83, unless you have some really bad marring. 83 has diminishing aprasives, which really need to be worked into the paint, ie killing your hand. 82 is a more friendly hand application. I still need to get some 82, I made the mistake of buying #9 instead of 82, kinda pissed about that. Also, if you want to learn more about detailing, cruze over to autopia.org, they have more info then you could ever wish for. JnEsPappa, thankx for the compliment, appreciate that. Good luck with your swirls, post some pics!

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    Default I think i have swirls...how do i take them out.

    I'm trying to make my paint look like it came off the lot. My hood is fine but when I get to my fenders it looks really cloudy kind of like swirls but I don't know. How do i take these out? Also from when I debadged I still have a little residue leftover. What is good to take those out?
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    Start with the mildest thing you have/can get. I would try something like 3M Swirl Mark Remover, then if you need to get more agressive you can go to the next step up (I think FinesseIt II).

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    To get the residue from the badges off, I recommed Goo-gone. It is citrus based and you can find it at Walmart. Small bottles are often hanging by the check out lines, or I believe you can find it back with the general house hold cleaners, maybe in the hardware section. I have also found it at Home Depot back in the area with solvents and cleaners.

    Not only does it do a great job on that badge residue, but it works great on bugs and tar as well.

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