Problem with Remote Starter on 2005 Sequoia

[zebra1550]

I was wondering if anyone has encountered this problem. I purchased a DEI Python 581 XP remote starter and had it installed on my 2005 Sequoia. The starter works great but I have noticed a problem. Three times now I have remotely started the truck, and the horn and lights flash when I do. This always happens after the truck has sat awhile in the cold. I believe that the remote start is draining the battery enough to trick the factory alarm into thinking the battery has been disconnected. Then when the truck starts, the volts kick back up and the factory alarm sounds as if it had been disconnected. The Python 581 XP is a transponder type system where the computer constantly sends a signal to the display on the remote. I haven't had a chance to take it back to the shop I had it installed at, but for $400 this remote start shouldn't be acting like this. Has anyone ever heard of a remote start or security system being hooked up improperly and causing these symptoms? Would a high quality optima battery solve the problem if the starter is in fact hooked up properly? Any feedback would be great,
Z

[fdavid100]

Alarm Triggering During Remote Start

Originally Posted by zebra1550

I was wondering if anyone has encountered this problem. I purchased a DEI Python 581 XP remote starter and had it installed on my 2005 Sequoia. The starter works great but I have noticed a problem. Three times now I have remotely started the truck, and the horn and lights flash when I do. This always happens after the truck has sat awhile in the cold. I believe that the remote start is draining the battery enough to trick the factory alarm into thinking the battery has been disconnected. Then when the truck starts, the volts kick back up and the factory alarm sounds as if it had been disconnected. The Python 581 XP is a transponder type system where the computer constantly sends a signal to the display on the remote. I haven't had a chance to take it back to the shop I had it installed at, but for $400 this remote start shouldn't be acting like this. Has anyone ever heard of a remote start or security system being hooked up improperly and causing these symptoms? Would a high quality optima battery solve the problem if the starter is in fact hooked up properly? Any feedback would be great,
Z

Z,

I had the exact same problem on my 2001 Sequoia for 3 years (it only occurred when it was very cold). I contacted the installer who installed it for the dealer and he knew right away what the problem was ... apparently my vehicle was one of the first ones he had installed the alarm in. When he did the original install he tightend the wires by just twisting and wrapping around the appropriate screws. When I took it back he actually soldered the wire connections together.

He explained it as when it gets cold enough the metal in the wires contract ever so slightly and is no longer in contact with its other half. Once I took it back and he soldered them this past summer I have not had one problem at all after 3 1/2 years of tripping the alarm.

As a stop-gap-measure until I could get the truck back to him I use to unlock and lock the door 4 - 6 times in succession. Believe it or not this warmed up the wires just enough so that when I immediately activated the remote start after the 6th time locking-unlocking the vehicle remotely the alarm did not go off. I'm not sure what model my alarm is but the problem sounds exactly the same.

Good luck
-- fdavid

[vermacelli]

Originally Posted by zebra1550

I was wondering if anyone has encountered this problem. I purchased a DEI Python 581 XP remote starter and had it installed on my 2005 Sequoia. The starter works great but I have noticed a problem. Three times now I have remotely started the truck, and the horn and lights flash when I do. This always happens after the truck has sat awhile in the cold. I believe that the remote start is draining the battery enough to trick the factory alarm into thinking the battery has been disconnected. Then when the truck starts, the volts kick back up and the factory alarm sounds as if it had been disconnected. The Python 581 XP is a transponder type system where the computer constantly sends a signal to the display on the remote. I haven't had a chance to take it back to the shop I had it installed at, but for $400 this remote start shouldn't be acting like this. Has anyone ever heard of a remote start or security system being hooked up improperly and causing these symptoms? Would a high quality optima battery solve the problem if the starter is in fact hooked up properly? Any feedback would be great,
Z

Take it back to the installer and ask them which wire they used to ground the "key sense," shuts off the factory alarm during remote start. There are (2) status outputs, make sure they used the one from the remote starter satellite relay. When the alarm triggers the remote starter, the satellite sends a steady ground signal to the keysense wire to make it think there's a key in the ignition. This turns off the factory alarm preventing the horn from honking and lights from flashing. Remember to buy a max pack of AAA batteries, the remote drains them pretty fast!

[zebra1550]

Thanks for the replies, I'm going to take it back Monday cause I'm tied up this weekend....

[dibble9012]

Originally Posted by vermacelli

Take it back to the installer and ask them which wire they used to ground the "key sense," shuts off the factory alarm during remote start. There are (2) status outputs, make sure they used the one from the remote starter satellite relay. When the alarm triggers the remote starter, the satellite sends a steady ground signal to the keysense wire to make it think there's a key in the ignition. This turns off the factory alarm preventing the horn from honking and lights from flashing. Remember to buy a max pack of AAA batteries, the remote drains them pretty fast!

Just bringing back an old thread instead of making a new one

I plan on installing a remote starter in my 2005 double cab Tundra, does the Tundra have this "key sense" wire so my stock alarm would not got off?

What I would want is to have the remote start by pressing the "lock" button on my stock remote several times. I do not want to have a new remote. Obviously I do not want the stock alarm going off when it is started.

Also, what exact unit would best suit my needs? I want anti-grind, use the stock remote, and interface with the stock alarm. Don't need door locks or anything like that, just remote start.