First post... Need HID install help..

[ChillyWilly]

Well I finally took the plunge and traded in my 01 tacoma TRD for my new BABY! A new 2006 Tundra DC 4x4. i also have a 2006 Sequoia LTD. I installed a 6000k H4 kit in the Limited so I ordered a kit for the Tundra. After installing the whole thing perfectly, I found my headlights on the minute I touched the 12v lead to the battery. Then if I try to use the light switch, it does nothing execpt when I place the switch to high beam the lights go out and the fog lights will not work at all. I have read all over and have really found no info on 2006 wiring. I have read about a wiring diagram somewhere around here but he few links to it are dead or I dont have rights to view it. the kit is a plug and play Bi-Xenon H4 kit. 2 balast, 2 relays, a harness, 2 bulbs, plugs directly into the 3 prong headlight plug. and has a 12v and ground wire. Im really good with auto wiring but this one has me stumped. Any and all help would be great!!

Thank You very much!

[ChillyWilly]

Anybody? Any Idea's at all?

[supra89]

HI
make sure the hid box is not touching metal or they are not ground and test the lights again
it is posible that the grouns on your head light is not in the midle position,
a meter will help you find the correct wire also when the high beam lights are on the fog lights turn off that how it is in my toyota

['00tundra]

I had a similar episode. My kit did not require a relay, single beam only so there were only two wires leading into the ballast. I connected spades to these two wires and found the proper combination into the the factory H-4 plug that made them light up. Toyota wiring only allows fogs to be on when lows are on. Had to trick the fog relay by tapping an acc wire. Now I can run my fogs anytime the key is on. HID's shut down when I hit the high switch, no biggie. Love my lights though.

[Wirth315]

Hello: I share your frustration. I installed a bi-xenon kit for the H4 Sequoia headlights and a 9006 HID fog light kit and experienced the exact same thing. After countless hours of research I found a pretty clever fix that works for me. It may not be your solution, but I will tell you what I did. I am not recommending you try this, I'm simply stating what I did.

First I'll tell you why your sequoia is doing this before getting into what I did. Like the other reply said, you can get your HID lights to turn off if you have the light switch dialed OFF and push the lever out for Hi Beams.

With the Bi xenon kit, you are now powering the lights directly from the Battery via the HID balast, not the toyota light wiring harness... Thus the toyota computer does not register a Load when the lights are turned on. With the HID kit installed, the toyota light wiring now merely signals the balast to turn on or off and change from hi and low beam, and no longer are they powering 55 watt halogen bulbs... so your vehicle computer doesn't know your lights are on or off for that matter.

This is why your fogights will never light now as the vehicle does not sense that the low beams are on... There is no current draw. Thus you have no power being sent to your fogs lights even though your HID lights are on.

If this makes sense to you up to this point your doing well.

One test you can do to verify this is simply unplug one of the vehicle headlight leads from one of the HID lighting harness leads and plug in one of your factory halogen bulbs. Make sure it is not touching anything that could melt as it will turn on / off and high and low as usual.

Bingo. You car is back to normal. Now your HID lights turn off, your low beams and fogs turn on as they should and your high beam indicator light works. I know you can't drive a vehicle like this but it proves my point that the computer system MUST sense a current draw to operate normally.

The FIX!!!!!! This is what I did. I am not telling you to do this. What you do in 100% your decision. I am not responsible for any damage that you may do to your vehicle from the following description of what I did with my Sequioa. So proceed at your own risk.

I simply installed a 20 watt 8 ohm resistor (purchased at Radio Shack for $2.29 Part number 2710120) inline on the passenger side OEM H4 headlight wire, before it plugs into the HID wiring lead. I chose the passenger headlight as you have way more room on that side to work. The resistor is only a couple inches long with 1 1/2" wire leads on both ends. I wired one end of the resistor to the middle or neutral plug, and the other end of the resistor to the low beam plug. So now when the headlights are turned on in low beam mode, the vehicle senses a 20 watt draw and bingo... the fog lights now turn on when my lights are turned on and in the low beam mode. The fogs turn off as they should when the high beams are turned on.

I did NOT have to wire a switch directly to the fog lamps and relays etc... Now my fogs turn on / off exactly like they should using the dial on the head lamp switch and in Low beam mode.

Two Issues.... The lights still only turn off when in High beam mode... and when the lights are on and I toggle between hi/low beam, their is no blue indicator for high beams. I am pretty sure I can fix this as well, by adding another 20 watt resistor to the other headlight Hi beam... so the vehicle senses a high beam draw and will turn on the blue indicator. I have not done this yet but will be trying it at my own risk soon.

The way it is now... I can use my HID's as daytime running lights by turning them on when the light switch is OFF and the HI beam / Low selector is in the Low mode... In this mode, only my HID headlights are on, and my dash lights, trip computer and radio lights do not dim like when the lights are turned on during the day. Now I can be safely seen with my bright HID's in my gray Sequioa on dull or overcast days. I do have to remember to turn them off by putting high beams back on, but I really like using them this way.

I have the 9006 HID fog lights installed and they work pefectly when the lights are officially turned on and my HID's are on low beam. My Sequoia looks super cooooooool with all 4 lights lit up in HID 9000 blue. I've ran this way for a year now and no problems what so ever. You just have to remember to push the high beam lever out every time you exit the vehicle to the lights turn off.

The installed resistor never even gets hot! Even after 5-6 hour road trips. I've been through a winter and a summer, rain or snow and no problems.

The HID kits using the H4 bi-xenon kits will eventually have a resistor built in and a proper current ground to simulate the current draw of the factory halogen bulbs. But until then, this fix works for me now. Eventually, I will wire another resistor to the high beam side and hope that I get my blue hi beam indicator light back when High beams are selected.

When testing which two of the three H4 leads to wire the resistor to, I unplugged one of the oem H4 light connectors from the HID ballast. I then turned the low beam lights on and the fog light switch to ON. Then I stuck one end of the resistor into the H4 middle plug and the other end of the resistor into one of the side plugs that is the low beam light. When you get the correct sequence... bingo, your fog lights will come on. Then wire or soder the resistor onto the H4 plug or wiring, and replug the HID connector into your oem h4 connector. Now both HID's will light, your low beam with fogs will work, your hi beams with fog light cutoff will work... but your hi beam indicator will not light and the lights only turn off in lights off - high beam mode.

As for power savings... the HID's are only 35 watts each... x 4 = 140 watts. Plus 20 watts for my resistor... totals 160 watts. That is low compared to 4 lights at 55 watts = 220 watts that the Halogens drew. Even with a 2nd resistor wired into the high side, I will only be drawing 180 watts.

Good Luck and email me with any questions... wirth315@aol.com

I cannot be responsible in any way for damage done to your vehicle by doing what I did. I am simply telling you what worked for me, and it is intirely your decision what you do with your vehicle.

I have a few pics, but cannot load them as they are above the 200kb file size.

[Wirth315]

Here is a resistor pic and a pic of my 2001 limited with BiXenon headlights and Xenon fog lights.

[Skoaltrain]

Same problem here in Des Moines.
Wirth315 - Thanks for the write up!
PS - nice looking 01! Love the HID's!

[Wirth315]

High beam indicator light and power off update: Both fixed! My HID bi xenon lights and HID fog lights work perfectly, just like OEM. They turn on/off with the switch, and the fogs toggle on/off as they should and now my blue high beam indicator lights as it should.

After 9 months of having one 20 watt resistor wired into my low beam side per the previous post... I was ready to wire in another resistor to my high beam side to fix my loss of high beam indicator and also fix the Turn Off problem when Low beams were on...

So last night I got another 20 watt resistor from Radio Shack. I went to the drivers side headlight and unplugged my HID H4 socket from the factory H4 socket. I positioned the 3 prong light socket so it was facing me. There is a LEFT vertical slot, a CENTER horizontal slot and a RIGHT vertical slot. For testing I put one end of the 20 watt resistor wire into the CENTER slot. Using a pinch clip for the other end of the resistor I connected it to the RIGHT slot. BINGO! My high beam indicator was lit up on the dash. I toggled the light switch from high to lows enjoying having my blue dash indicator turn on. I turned the light switch off and all the lights turned off as they should. Wow. It's been about a year since I had everthing work as it should. I very carefullly inserted the HID plug into the Factory Plug to test with both HID headlights on. It all worked fine. I left them on for 15 minutes to test the resistor temperature and the Resistors were hot. Not melting hot, but almost to hot to touch.

This was just my test. Tonight, I am going to remove the battery so I can have working room to splice the resistor into the factory wiring. I do this by going about 5" down the line, and opening up the factory loom. Then I use the crimp line taps and tap into the wires that lead to the CENTER and RIGHT slots on the plug. I connect those line taps to each end of the resistor with soder and it's done.

I then position the resistor down onto the metal bottom, and AWAY from anything else. I zip tie all the other HID lines etc... together and suspend them above the resistor so NOTHING can touch it. The resistor WILL get HOT! Running over the winter my other resistor would get warm but I could always touch it. After last nights test, they were both hot. I could touch them, but they were hot. I may buy the small metal project box's they sell at radio shack to house the resistors in, but again... If I lay the resistors down on the metal fender wall on both sides, it actually acts like a heat diffuser. I will be SURE that no other wiring can touch the resistor and everything should be fine.

Again, I am just telling you what I did. I do not suggest it would be safe for you to do like wise. What you do is your decision and liability! I hope the above post helps you find your solution to making your HID's a Factory install.

To sum it all up. I am now creating a 20 watt draw on the low beam circuit, and a 20 watt draw on the high beam circuit. The on board computer system now believes it's powering the old 55 watt Halogen bulbs, and operates the circuits properly again.

[Wirth315]

This post is just deleting the same post above as I accidentally posted it twice.

[lexforlife]

Originally Posted by
I simply installed a 20 watt 8 ohm resistor (purchased at Radio Shack for $2.29 Part number 2710120) inline on the passenger side OEM H4 headlight wire, before it plugs into the HID wiring lead. I chose the passenger headlight as you have way more room on that side to work. The resistor is only a couple inches long with 1 1/2" wire leads on both ends. I wired one end of the resistor to the middle or neutral plug, and the other end of the resistor to the low beam plug. So now when the headlights are turned on in low beam mode, the vehicle senses a 20 watt draw and bingo... the fog lights now turn on when my lights are turned on and in the low beam mode. The fogs turn off as they should when the high beams are turned on.

I did NOT have to wire a switch directly to the fog lamps and relays etc... Now my fogs turn on / off exactly like they should using the dial on the head lamp switch and in Low beam mode.

Two Issues.... The lights still only turn off when in High beam mode... and when the lights are on and I toggle between hi/low beam, their is no blue indicator for high beams. I am pretty sure I can fix this as well, by adding another 20 watt resistor to the other headlight Hi beam... so the vehicle senses a high beam draw and will turn on the blue indicator. I have not done this yet but will be trying it at my own risk soon.

The way it is now... I can use my HID's as daytime running lights by turning them on when the light switch is OFF and the HI beam / Low selector is in the Low mode... In this mode, only my HID headlights are on, and my dash lights, trip computer and radio lights do not dim like when the lights are turned on during the day. Now I can be safely seen with my bright HID's in my gray Sequioa on dull or overcast days. I do have to remember to turn them off by putting high beams back on, but I really like using them this way.

I have the 9006 HID fog lights installed and they work pefectly when the lights are officially turned on and my HID's are on low beam. My Sequoia looks super cooooooool with all 4 lights lit up in HID 9000 blue. I've ran this way for a year now and no problems what so ever. You just have to remember to push the high beam lever out every time you exit the vehicle to the lights turn off.

The installed resistor never even gets hot! Even after 5-6 hour road trips. I've been through a winter and a summer, rain or snow and no problems.

The HID kits using the H4 bi-xenon kits will eventually have a resistor built in and a proper current ground to simulate the current draw of the factory halogen bulbs. But until then, this fix works for me now. Eventually, I will wire another resistor to the high beam side and hope that I get my blue hi beam indicator light back when High beams are selected.

When testing which two of the three H4 leads to wire the resistor to, I unplugged one of the oem H4 light connectors from the HID ballast. I then turned the low beam lights on and the fog light switch to ON. Then I stuck one end of the resistor into the H4 middle plug and the other end of the resistor into one of the side plugs that is the low beam light. When you get the correct sequence... bingo, your fog lights will come on. Then wire or soder the resistor onto the H4 plug or wiring, and replug the HID connector into your oem h4 connector. Now both HID's will light, your low beam with fogs will work, your hi beams with fog light cutoff will work... but your hi beam indicator will not light and the lights only turn off in lights off - high beam mode.

As for power savings... the HID's are only 35 watts each... x 4 = 140 watts. Plus 20 watts for my resistor... totals 160 watts. That is low compared to 4 lights at 55 watts = 220 watts that the Halogens drew. Even with a 2nd resistor wired into the high side, I will only be drawing 180 watts.

Good Luck and email me with any questions... [EMAIL="wirth315@aol.com"

wirth315@aol.com[/EMAIL]

I cannot be responsible in any way for damage done to your vehicle by doing what I did. I am simply telling you what worked for me, and it is intirely your decision what you do with your vehicle.

I have a few pics, but cannot load them as they are above the 200kb file size.

i just installed a 6k made from mtec and boy does it look nice but have the fog issue .. i have a 4700 fog kit ready to use but of course fogs dont come on ....\

can you expain alittle clear about how to postion the resistor for i want my fogs and hid headlights i dont need high beams , lows at 6k is plenty

could expalin

[Wirth315]

Hello: I share your frustration and love having HID lights/fogs. Mine are matched 8000K. My fogs/driving lights are a bit to bright for driving on 2 way roads as I get flashed occasionally by oncoming drivers... so I leave them off when driving in traffic. But on 4 lane hwy's and dim days or dusky rainy days, they are great and really help my grey Sequoia be seen. I am going to build a reflector to limit the side spill of my fog's so I can run them anytime.

If you re-read my post carefully, it should make sense. The resistor is wired inline with the factory H4 plug between the Center post and left side post. It can be sodered in before the plug by tapping into the wires, or you can soder it onto the male plugs of the HID kit that plug into the factory H4 light plug. This creates a 20 watt draw of resistance, thus allowing your Truck to think the low beams are ON, and thus the vehicle now sends power to the Fogs via your fog light switch on the stick when your low beams are on. If you read on, this is the step by step I did.

What you do is up to you. I take No responsibility for any damage you do to your truck. Only you know your electrical and mechanical ability. I am just telling you what I did.
First... I bought the resistor at radio shack.
2nd... I cut the 3" hard wire leads from the resistor to aprox. 1/2" -3/4" long.
3rd... I soddered 6" wire leads (14 guage black wire from walmart) from both sides of the resistor and coated the leads liberally with black liquid electric tape (walmart) to insulate the wire leads from shorting should they touch anything metal. Electrical tape would work for the average laymen. Note: I did NOT coat the white resistor... Just the wire leads. Now the resistor is ready to be sodered into the lighting to create the 20 watts of resistance on the low beam side.
4thly... I turned my HID lights on in low beam, and dialed my non working fog lights on. I tested the resistor by touching the black wire leads to the male leads from the HID kit that plug into the female H4 factory light harness on the passenger side of the truck. I slid this connection apart about 1/8" so they still made a connection and my HID's stayed on, but I had enough room to touch one lead from the resistor to the center post. The center post runs east/west or left/right. I touched the other lead from the resistor to the left post which runs north/south or up/down. Bingo!!! My fog lights now light up. If they didn't, then I tried the other up/down post on the three prong connection.
5th... After locating the correct two leads, I completely disconnected the male HID plug and soddered the resistor leads to the center and left post as close to the connector as possible so that the male posts will still plug fully into the OEM H4 plug.
6th... I liberally coated that connection with dialectric grease as a small gap exists between the plugs where the soddered resistor leads are. I could have coated it with the black liquid electric grease, but wanted it to be easier to unplug.
7th... I placed the resistor down flat on the fender wall and zip tied all the wires and leads securely above so the resistor stays put against the firewall which helps disipate any heat which builds up. My resistor only gets warm, even after prolonged use.
8... I experimented with wiring a 2nd resistor to the high beam side, but the resistors built exessive heat sharing the middle post... so I did not leave it on.
9... I have had one year of problem free HID light driving and fog light driving when appropriate. HID's are amazing. I love the bi-xenon kit I installed as it keeps my low-beams and high-beams functional, and my fogs turn on/off as they should toggling between low/hi beam.
This worked for me. I hope it helps you in your quest to do the same. But what you do is soley your choice and liability.
Over/out
Please post back your results.

[tundraenvy]

Im not quite sure if anyone has the answer to my question or if it has been answered in previos blogs but here goes..

i recently purchased 8000k hid head and foglights for my 2005 tundra. the fogs plugged and played perfectly however the bi xenon headlights did not. the high beams work but the low beam hid bulbs never come on even when i have the fog lights off. can anyone help?

[lol2wd]

Sorry to bring up a seemingly dead topic, but this is a gold post right here. I was pulling my hair out trying to get my kit to work. After adding the resistor in-line to the low beam connection everything is working. I have 3000K HID Fogs with 6000K Headlights. Thanks a bunch!