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Wow. Very solid. Wish I knew how to do this stuff.
That "stuff" is not something the Toyota factory engineers think you need to know. You see, they don't recommend all this "flushing" stuff. Or pan removal. Or filter cleaning. They recommend simply periodically draining and refilling the 2-3 quarts in transmission oil pan only. Owners who have followed that advice have driven up to 550,000 miles without needing a transmission overhaul. Owners who have flushed, etc., havn't extended the lives of their transmissions beyond that figure.
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That "stuff" is not something the Toyota factory engineers think you need to know. You see, they don't recommend all this "flushing" stuff. Or pan removal. Or filter cleaning. They recommend simply periodically draining and refilling the 2-3 quarts in transmission oil pan only. Owners who have followed that advice have driven up to 550,000 miles without needing a transmission overhaul. Owners who have flushed, etc., havn't extended the lives of their transmissions beyond that figure.
Oh really... Just becoz Toyota says so does not become god's words. Now will Toyota come and help me once the power train warranty is up.

Mr/Ms K: You need to stop this cock and bull story and get yourself a life.. Remember in America not many own their vehicles beyond 100K (since all vehicles are designed just for 100K, after that the suspension falls apart etc). If you want to put in the 500K magic # quoted, you will need to do 5 suspension upgrades, 5 paint jobs, 2/3 engine/tranny rebuilds with the PM schedule provided by OEMs.

So honestly, those who flush their trannies are safe with their trannies. Remember everything on the vehicle is cheap and replaceable baring engine and tranny.
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That "stuff" is not something the Toyota factory engineers think you need to know. You see, they don't recommend all this "flushing" stuff. Or pan removal. Or filter cleaning. They recommend simply periodically draining and refilling the 2-3 quarts in transmission oil pan only. Owners who have followed that advice have driven up to 550,000 miles without needing a transmission overhaul. Owners who have flushed, etc., havn't extended the lives of their transmissions beyond that figure.
How can you possibly back this up w/ any real data? Anecdotal examples aren't convincing. Obviously you're an intelligent person, so you should be responsible when making categorical statements. Statements the asertions and implications therein you must know are anecdotal at best, and plainly misleading and false at worst.
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Oh really... Just becoz Toyota says so does not become god's words. Now will Toyota come and help me once the power train warranty is up.

Mr/Ms K: You need to stop this cock and bull story and get yourself a life.. Remember in America not many own their vehicles beyond 100K (since all vehicles are designed just for 100K, after that the suspension falls apart etc). If you want to put in the 500K magic # quoted, you will need to do 5 suspension upgrades, 5 paint jobs, 2/3 engine/tranny rebuilds with the PM schedule provided by OEMs.

So honestly, those who flush their trannies are safe with their trannies. Remember everything on the vehicle is cheap and replaceable baring engine and tranny.


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How can you possibly back this up w/ any real data? Anecdotal examples aren't convincing. Obviously you're an intelligent person, so you should be responsible when making categorical statements. Statements the asertions and implications therein you must know are anecdotal at best, and plainly misleading and false at worst.
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That "stuff" is not something the Toyota factory engineers think you need to know. You see, they don't recommend all this "flushing" stuff. Or pan removal. Or filter cleaning. They recommend simply periodically draining and refilling the 2-3 quarts in transmission oil pan only. Owners who have followed that advice have driven up to 550,000 miles without needing a transmission overhaul. Owners who have flushed, etc., havn't extended the lives of their transmissions beyond that figure.
Ok, they have driven up to 550,000 miles without needing an overhaul you say. What is the other end of the spectrum? In other words the smallest amount of miles before needing a rebuild. Your glass always seems to be right to the brim.

Another quick question - Is your Toyota tattoo on the left or right cheek?
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Ok, they have driven up to 550,000 miles without needing an overhaul you say. What is the other end of the spectrum? In other words the smallest amount of miles before needing a rebuild. Your glass always seems to be right to the brim.
300,000 - 550,000 miles is the typical life of the 70's, 80's and early 90's Toyota automatic transmissions if the owner was over 30 and drained and refilled the 2-3 quarts in the oil pan (and 1+ quart in the differential of some FWD models) every 15,000 - 30,000 miles and was careful to maintain the correct fluid level at all times.

Under 30 owners tend to have a leadfoot when driving in the city and suburbs and no amount of fluid draining and refilling or flushing or use of auxillary filters and coolers will prevent heavy wear of the clutch and brake discs inside their transmissions caused by full throttle starts from stop signs and stoplights.
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With the majority of people on this Toyota Forum and others like it...we are a thorn in the side for Toyota. Even as loyal Toyota enthusiasts.

Toyota must watch and listen to what we say here, because even as a small group, we represent the eyes and ears of the average Toyota consumer.

Our observations, pro or con, impact Toyota's name .

KR, yu know where I am coming from ...don't yu?

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Toyota must watch and listen to what we say here, because even as a small group, we represent the eyes and ears of the average Toyota consumer. Our observations, pro or con, impact Toyota's name .KR, yu know where I am coming from ...don't yu? LT
None of us are Toyota executives, so none of us knows what goes on in Toyota board of directors meetings so we can't know for sure whether what we say here matters much to Toyota executives. Example: Despite the fact that owners do not like the new cartridge type oil filters and do not like the new dipstickless automatic transmissions, Toyota decided the benefits of these new designs trumped the disadvantages so it is highly unlikely Toyota will ever go back to spin on oil filters or dipstick equipped transmissions.
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KathyRicks,

Then explain WHY the 4.7L still has the spin-on filter and the 5.7L has the cartridge based filter. Bet you can't vouch for that one either.

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KathyRicks, Then explain WHY the 4.7L still has the spin-on filter and the 5.7L has the cartridge based filter. Bet you can't vouch for that one either.Sanosuke!
The 4.7 is an older engine - derived from the 1989 Lexus LS400 V8. Toyota is phasing in cartridge oil filters on it's new engine designs and redesigned models like the 5.7L Tundra V8 and 3.5L Highlander V6.
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Kathyricks,

I own a 2007 and they're still using the spin on filters in the 2008 Tundra's as well, so your thing about them being bygone is so sadly mistaken.

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Kathyricks,I own a 2007 and they're still using the spin on filters in the 2008 Tundra's as well, so your thing about them being bygone is so sadly mistaken.
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I never said spin on's were "bygone". Toyota dealers will have to stock spin ons for decades to come for the older engine designs like your 4.7.

But on every new engine and most of the new models Toyota comes out with, Toyota is likely going to install a cartridge type filter element for environmental disposal reasons.
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