Quarter Mile time with Supercharger

[Hodgeee]

Well, I went to test and tune again on Friday. It started at 5:30pm, and I showed up at 6:10. Luckily only about 150 cars total. I got in 4 runs within about an hour and a half. Good Traction this day. The truck felt much stronger today, and I think it was since the weather was 63 degrees, and I did not have to sit in the pits for long hours at a time. Now I had just done a exhaust change the day before the last run, and I think that my truck was relearning the setup, cause on Friday, man it felt so much better, and has been each day that I have been driving it. Today I had just under 1/2 a tank of gas, and I left my tailgate at home. I did not ice my intake, or do any other modifications to my truck, just drove it again stock. I was real upset my last times running, cause for some reason the truck just did not feel as fast as it normally did. Here are my new times minus the reaction time, since it plays no part in the 1/4 time, and they all really sucked, since I was more interested in good times than beating the guy next to me.

1st
15.45 at 89.6mph.
Got just a little slip on the launch, but did not feel as strong as I was expecting again. But liked the fact that I ran just a hair faster than the last day at the track.

2nd
15.235 at 91.3
Hooked up better and felt a little stronger, got some wheel spin again.

3rd
15.015 at 93
Man the truck felt like normal now, or what I am used to on the street. Real happy with this time, just a chirp at the launch and strong pulling.

4th
14.935 at 94.8
Perfect launch, no spin at all(different lane this time) truck felt great again. I am sure I got the .1 second improvment off the launch.

Well, got into the 14s in Vegas. Still I was hoping for better, but I am not complaining at all. This equates to about a 14.5 - 14.6 run in Cali. Not bad at all for a 4x4. I wonder if the other guy that got the 14.3 has a 2 wheel drive version. There was a stock 2002 lightning out there also. He ran 3 consecutive 14.3 times or altitude corrected to 13.9 runs. This puts me at right about 5 to 6 car lengths at 90 miles per hour, like when I ran my truck against player19's lightning.

I guess my other day at the track was just a bad day, or who knows, if I got another couple of runs that day, maybe I would have gotten the same times. The truck just felt real slow that day. On Friday my truck felt great.

Well, I know pretty much what my truck will do, but I don't think that I will run it at the tracks again until I run out of warrenty and I slap some nitro on there!

[kaneman]

Good runs.. I've got to get some runs on my 99' S/C'd tacoma. I figure it's probably good for low 15's. I have no problem keeping up w/my buddies mid 14sec Galant VR4 Turbo and I can crush my brother's 01' V8 Tundra. I've got an 03' 4Runner as well and supposedly they are good for mid 15's. I'm going to have to race my wife in my truck one of these days to see how they match up.. I think the Tacoma will beat it..

[Hodgeee]

I posted before that the Tundras were lighter than the Lightnings. I just read a review in sports truck magazine, and they weighed all the vehicles. The lightning by itself weighed 4280lbs, the Tundra from a previous magazine came in at 4780lbs. No wonder they smoke our ***, even with all the power adders!

[v8Toilet]

Hodgeee! How did you run a 15.2 with a NA motor then? The day I went to the track with a Supercharged Tundra he was running a 15.0 @ 88 mph and I was running 15.5-15.7 the same day. The track is 91-ft. above sea level.

[Hodgeee]

Lets see!?! I was wondering when someone would ask that?!

Well, I don't know what you got in your truck, is it a 4x4, what edition of the charger did that guy you ran with have. The first generation of the supercharger was pretty crappy.

I stripped the vehicle of all excess weight, ran a 28" tire, which is equivalent to runing a 4.27 ring in the rear, my truck weighed less then also. The new rims and tires added about 60lbs, the supercharger added 65, I weigh about 60lbs more now, yeah got real fat!, I had about 1/4 tank of gas. I removed the spare tire, the tailgate, my bedliner, my jack, I didn't have 150lbs of stereo equipment. I iced my intake before each run!

Lets see!

supercharger 65lbs
My weight 60lbs
spare tire 32lbs
new rims/tires 60lbs
Tailgate 52lbs
Stealth box/amps 150lbs
Bed liner 30lbs
jack 18lbs
9 gallons less 60lbs
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Total approx. 500lbs less weight

Temperature 58 degrees, 10 degrees cooler, they say that every 10 degrees of temperature gives you 5% more power, or less depending on the outside temperature. Haven't you noticed that you vehicle feels kinda week during the summer, then great during the winter!

I posted that I ran my truck right off the street with all my upgrades and the stock 4x4 setup to see what she would run on the streets in an everyday situation. I only took off the tailgate, figuring that it would cause drag, and had 1/2 of a tank of gas instead of a full tank like before. 500lbs more weight, 31" offroad tires with heavier rims, this takes away inertia that a light weight rim and tire provide like on the rice rockets. You should know that there are a slew of things that all make a difference. I even posted before that I ran in the 16s when my truck was totally stock off the street.

I was thinking of doing all this agian, to see what the absolute best that this truck would run, and probably won't, but like I posted, I wanted to see what the regular guy Tundra 4x4 would run with all the mods, and right off the street. I am sure that I could get the lightning times easy if I was given the time and the tempatures, but I sure don't want to pull out my amps and my Stealth box, and all the heavy guage wiring, and my XM satalite reciever, and my heavier speakers all around. I don't mind the tailgate, the bedliner, spare tire and jack, that is easy. This way now, someone who is considering the supercharger, has a good baseline figure on what kind of performance that they will run on the street and offroading.

I actually bought another truck without any options so that I could specifically turn it into a quarter mile truck, I posted it on my pics. The danger of this Tundra that I own has now got me into the racing scene again, and I forgot how much of a blast that I have gotten from it. I have all ready taken a chance of loosing my warrenty since there are those at my dealership that read my posts and know who I am. That is why I think that I am done with racing the Tundra. My new truck cost me less than $21,000 for brand new, compared to the $33000 for the Tundra, and I decided to do a truck, since I have such a blast blowing peoples doors off with a vehicle that the sports car guys think would be an easy lunch. Now after I get the charger for that truck, the headers, catback and ram air intake, I should be getting 460 to 475 hp with a truck that weighed in at 4085lbs with me in it. The Tundra weighed just a hair over 5100lbs with my mods and me in it! We are talking about 90more hp than the Tundra for a vehicle that weighs 1000lbs less, has a 5.3 motor that is much more torquer than the 4.7, and will have the suspension better suited to drag racing. Yes I did weight the trucks. I probably will not post on the GMC since it is not Tundra related!

Oh by the way there is a guy out here that also ran a 4x2 tundra fully stripped, no seats besides the driver side.

But overall I am running about 1.7 seconds faster than my truck stock, with upgrades and more weight. I tell you any vehicle that you get an almost 2 second upgrade in performance is pretty damn good improvement. If you are expecting really great times, You are asking for too much. But if you run 15.5 stock, then you will be in the 13s with your truck if you do all the mods, and you will be damn faster than my setup! Oh by the way, how you like the Airfilter, I hope you enjoy it!

[v8Toilet]

You sound like you got a little offended by that post!!! If so I'm sorry!

[Hodgeee]

I read my post again, it did sound like I was peeved! Don't worry I'm not, I'm sorry that it came out that way. I was working on something and just tried to type it out real fast, and it seemed short in a couple of ways.

No, I was just pointing out that everyday can be real different when running at the track. Too many conditions, humidity, temp, tire pressure, fuel quality, wind direction, aerodynamics, and total weight all play a part. I think that is why I was so upset with my runs, I was expecting a lot and bragging alot, then my outcome was a little premature. I thought with my initial track runs that for sure I would have been at 14 flat in the 1/4, but realized when I raced Player19s lightning, that my expectations were a little bit shorter than I thought they would be. Just a little dissappointed till I reminded myself from my racing days, that not all is as it appears. I actually had to step back and think of why the truck seemed so slow to me.

I had a 88 mustang LX with a 5.0 and 5 speed. I spent about $10,000 on it back in 89 and 90 and with a drag racing suspension and drag strip tires on it I ran a 11.9 at 127mph in the 1/4 mile. Then when I moved back to Vegas back in 92 I ran it at Las Vegas Speedway, (the old crappy track) with street tires and a revised street suspension and my best run was a 13.2 at 110 mph. I had done the same thing and bragged about it to everyone, then when I came back into the pits I was laughed at for running so slow. But that day I was still faster than every other car at that test and tune. There was about 50 people out there that day. I had no traction at all until I hit third, a lot of different things came into play with that car. I was running about 450 or so at the crank, with supercharging and a 347 stroker kit that took that 302 up a bit.

What's nice today is that the average car is almost as capable as the sports cars were in the late 80s and early 90s, and they even get better power, are safer in an accident, and run ultra clean emissions. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

[v8Toilet]

Tundraplumber wasn't happy with his time either! Tundraplumber is having his truck engine upgraded by Nitrousfed with ported Lexus heads, camshaft, smaller pulley, and a Unichip piggy back computer. He told me Saturday that without even tuning it yet it put down 422 horsepower compared to 260 stock with the supercharger. He is expecting to be close to 500 rear wheel horsepower. Maybe this is something you might be interested in.

Tundraplumber wasn't happy with his time either!

[Hodgeee]

I would like to do those mods also, but man, really starting to get expensive, and Like I said, I don't think the tranny could handle it. I talked to Level Ten Performance In New York, they are famous for getting regular transmissions to hold incredible levels of power. They said that our trannies are only rated to handle 360lbft of torque, that means even with the second computer for the supercharger that controls the tranny, this thing is at its level right now. they said for $2000 dollars not including shipping they said that they could get this tranny to be able to handle just under 500lbft of torque. Man so $2000 for the tranny, I don't know what else you can do to the rear end, except replace it with a ford or chevy unit beefed up, with new mounts welded on it to make it fit. That would run about $2000, then about $3000 more to the motor. We are talking another $7000 bucks on top of the $5000 that I all ready spent!

Not worth it to me! If this was a 2 wheel drive lowered truck, I might consider it, but as my weekend 4x4, I would kill myself that way. Also I heard that NitrousFed had allready blown one motor and two trannies. Thank him for finding out how much our stuff can handle, but he was making about 500hp when he blew his stuff, and I heard that he got his tranny redone also. Just too much for this truck. My new GMC will be able to handle 500hp and torque all right, and that is going to be my sport lowrider truck. I am going to improve the handling and the braking to great levels, so that I can handle that kind of power, and I can do it for a lot cheaper since the tranny, rear end, and the engine are all ready more stout and stronger than ours. This tranny can handle 460lbs of torque in its stock configurations, and it can handle 600lbs for about $1000 including the labor cost. The rear end you just slap a Girdle on it, throw headers, catback, intake and Magnacharger on it, and walla for under $10,000 including the suspension and lowering kit you got 475 to 500hp, equal torque, and a vehicle that can handle it allready. Not that Toyota isn't great, but I was surprized to see that GM trucks are third in overall quality, who would have thought.

I might be interested about the unichip though, let me know more about this if you can.

[Y2kn1Tun]

Originally posted by v8Toilet
Tundraplumber wasn't happy with his time either! Tundraplumber is having his truck engine upgraded by Nitrousfed with ported Lexus heads, camshaft, smaller pulley, and a Unichip piggy back computer. He told me Saturday that without even tuning it yet it put down 422 horsepower compared to 260 stock with the supercharger. He is expecting to be close to 500 rear wheel horsepower. Maybe this is something you might be interested in.

Tundraplumber wasn't happy with his time either!

That sounds like its gonna be one bad mofo. Also Hodgee, what was your reaction time, 60ft time, and 1/8 mile time and mph?
lata Wes

[v8Toilet]

Originally posted by WesleyFielder
That sounds like its gonna be one bad mofo. Also Hodgee, what was your reaction time, 60ft time, and 1/8 mile time and mph?
lata Wes

Here is the breakdown

My best run
Chevy Duramax Diesel extended cab/ Tundra
R/T ......810....................807
60' ......2.371.................2.304
330' ....6.408.................6.455
1/8 .....9.814.................9.926
MPH ...72.38..................71.03
1000 ..12.772...............12.949
1/4 .....15.312..............15.526
MPH ....88.30................87.17