Original oil filter versus replacement filters?

TundraGuy · #1 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 07:50 AM

Quick question,

Does anyone know roughly what the original factory oil filter looks like compared to a Toyota replacement part? (color, text, stuff like that)

Thanks!

Sean

RagerXS · #2 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 07:59 AM

Sean,

I don't have the answer to your question, but I thought I'd reply anyway to provide additional information.

While it has traditionally been a concern that the OEM (Toyota, Mazda, any foreign car) factory filter and OEM replacement filter were most often completely different, this concern should not exist for the Tundra.

Typically the vehicles would come from Japan (or Europe) with a superior filter to the one you could get at the local dealer as the replacement part. This is because it was not cost-effective to ship replacement filters across the ocean.

However, this should not be of concern for our Tundras because they are made right here in the USA. In other words, they likely come from the US factory with a filter sourced on this side of the pond, which in turn is probably the same filter you get as the replacement.

~ Fred

Buzzard · #3 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 08:13 AM

The original filter that came on the new engine ( if memory services me) was black, like the replacement filter you buy from Toyota. I think the replacement filter (from Toyota) is a tad smaller.

TundraGuy · #4 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 09:01 AM

Do you know if the original filter had japanese on it? I'm just trying to make sure that the service guys actually switched out the filter during my last oil change. (I think they probably did, since I see oil on the top of the skid plate below the filter.)

Sean

DaveS · #5 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 09:42 AM

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Does anyone know roughly what the original factory oil filter looks like compared to a Toyota replacement part? (color, text, stuff like that)

I don't really recall much about the factory oil filter in terms of text on it or dimensions compared to the OEM filter, but I do know that it's the Japanese version, part # is 90915-20004, it costs about twice as much as the American version (part # 90915-YZZB5), and that you should be able to get it at your dealer.

DaveS

RagerXS · #6 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 01:36 PM

Good info, guys.

~ Fred

Altered4X · #7 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 01:37 PM

Hmmmmm

I just had a flashback at the time i was buying my Tundra.......

The parts guy told me something about always using Toyota oil filters when changing the oil. It has some kinda of special "mechanism" that helps keep oil pressure up when the truck is turned off.

I dont know if this is true or not.......

Guys, help me out.... Is this fantasy or fact?

Laterz

arkie6 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Altered4X
The parts guy told me something about always using Toyota oil filters when changing the oil. It has some kinda of special "mechanism" that helps keep oil pressure up when the truck is turned off.

That would be the anti-drainback valve. Most oil filters, including the Toyota brand, have one of these. Some are better quality than others though. I've read some not so good things regarding Fram oil filters (just do an internet search for "oil filter study" or something to that effect). If the drainback valve doesn't seal properly, then oil from the upper oil galleries can drain back down through the filter, through the oil pump, and into the pan given enough time. This can result in abnormal amounts of valve train noise upon startup after setting overnight until the oil pressure replenishes the oil galleries. The Tundra oil filter is tilted such than most of the oil will not drain out of the filter, which is a good thing. Most higher quality filters such as Mobil 1, Bosch Premium, Purolator PureOne, K&N, etc. should meet or exceed the performance specs of the Toyota filters, including the relief and drainback valves.

Henk · #9 (**permalink**) 03-15-2002, 08:15 PM

Try the Puro Pure One 20195. It's synthetic media, twice the capacity (and filtering life) of the stock filter, and is only $6. Plenty of room around the filter mount. Might as well use Mobil 1 also! (oh sorry... wrong thread....)

Tundraholic · #10 (**permalink**) 03-16-2002, 12:18 AM

I kept the original filter off the truck.

When I took it to the Toyota shop they told me the Tundra takes a different #.

well I knew better but went a head a bought what they were selling.

They gave me a filter of the same size, same color, but It felt quite a bit lighter ( even taking in account the small amt. of oil left in the filter) and the gasket looked a little different as well as the return flow gasket. Part # was different also and will share it with you if you so desire.

My conclusion was the original was better and we in the USA can not get the same filter that came on the truck.

Tundarholic

arkie6 · #11 (**permalink**) 03-16-2002, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by TundraGuy
Does anyone know roughly what the original factory oil filter looks like compared to a Toyota replacement part? (color, text, stuff like that)

We covered this subject in depth a couple of years ago right after the Tundra first came out. The factory installed filter, part number 90915-20004, and the replacement filter, part number 90915-YZZB5, are virtually identical. Both filters are made by Denso in Japan. The only difference is that the factory installed filter has a pre-lubricated gasket, while the replacment filter does not have the pre-lubricated O-ring. The factory installed filter allows for rapid factory line installation, while the replacment filter requires that you lubricate the O-ring with oil prior to installation. That's it in a nutshell. Many dealers tend to gouge a little on the price of those -20004 filters because it is something they do not normally handle or sell many of and if a customer wants it bad enough, they will pay whatever. I've seen prices quoted anywhere from $7.00 to $12.00 for them. The YZZB5 filters typically run $3.50 to $5.50.