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This is a discussion thread titled "Lift kit and Header/Muffler prices?", within the Engine & Drivetrain forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
I plan to buy some aftermarket parts, so I went down to the Toyota dealership to get pricing including labor costs. I just want to know if I should be buying this stuff somewhere else and/or having someone else install this stuff to limit the damage to my wallet:
Downey front lift kit = $700 + $300 labor
Downey add-a-leaf = $100 + $216 labor
Duelsh Tech or Procom (sp?) rear shocks = $80 + $72 labor
Flowmaster muffler = $398 + $144 labor
TRD Header = $900 + $800 labor
One of the local Toyota dealers near me charges $300 to install the headers - see > TRD HEADER SPECIAL
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With the downey add-a-leafs, you will need to do the new shocks at the same time. If a shop wants to charge you $70 for that- RUN and take your $$ elsewhere. There are 2 bolts for those things and would take 5 min each!!!! I did my leafs with the help of a friend and it took 4 hours, but it was a bit of a gruel and you need to do some grinding to get the OEM alignment bindings off.
The Doetsch Tech hydraulics are very nice and were about $100/pr from Downey
The coil over costs are ball park There is a guy at downey who does the installs on the side. Have you talked with them directly?? Might be a bit cheaper to have him do the whole lift for you, but more out of your way.
Good luck and happy lifting!!!
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The website will tell you who installs. Though flowmaster doesn't say so, most of the installers have a stock of mufflers.
I talked with five of six of them, and they all agreed on what kind of muffler, tailpipes and tips were working best. (BTW, it wasn't what Flowmaster's tech experts recommended.)
A complete Flowmaster "American Thunder" system will cost quite a bit, but you may not really want that much. I found an installer who got me out the door with the right muffler, and with tailpipes and neat tips for somewhere around $300, parts and labor -- and that was here in the very expensive San Francisco Bay area.
Now, admittedly, my tailpipes aren't stainless steel, but I drive 5 miles to my train every morning. The pipes are plenty hot, so no corroding moisture is in there.
Besides, the cats raise normal exhaust temperatures throughout the system, whick means the tailpipes last a whole lot longer.
Bottom line: you can get a system that will pert near last forever for not a lot of bucks!
__________________ Larry Lawton
Retired in Wyoming
I am just looking for increased performance but don't have much mechanical experience so a lot of these terms don't mean much to me. I have read some posts that people get headers for the sound - that's not really important to me. I do live at the beach, so things tend to rust easily. Given that, any recommendations?
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Originally posted by Larry Lawton If you want a flowmaster muffler on your truck, I'd look on their web site, http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/
The website will tell you who installs. Though flowmaster doesn't say so, most of the installers have a stock of mufflers.
I talked with five of six of them, and they all agreed on what kind of muffler, tailpipes and tips were working best. (BTW, it wasn't what Flowmaster's tech experts recommended.)
A complete Flowmaster "American Thunder" system will cost quite a bit, but you may not really want that much. I found an installer who got me out the door with the right muffler, and with tailpipes and neat tips for somewhere around $300, parts and labor -- and that was here in the very expensive San Francisco Bay area.
Now, admittedly, my tailpipes aren't stainless steel, but I drive 5 miles to my train every morning. The pipes are plenty hot, so no corroding moisture is in there.
Besides, the cats raise normal exhaust temperatures throughout the system, whick means the tailpipes last a whole lot longer.
Bottom line: you can get a system that will pert near last forever for not a lot of bucks!
Same question to you as I had for Larry. I don't have a lot of mechanical experience so I am way behind when it comes to some of these terms. I told this parts guy at the dealership who seems to have a lot of offroad experience, that I was looking to raise my Tundy about an inch and also wanted better suspension performance on and off road. I already got new tires, so I am looking for a lift and better performance beyond that. He recommended the Downey lift in the front and the downey add-a-leafs in the back with new rear shocks. That is about all I know about the individual parts.
I could wing it and go up to Downey (less than a three hour drive from here) to have them install all this but do I just decribe what parts I want as I did above, or do I need to get more detailed?
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Originally posted by TMS2U LB-
With the downey add-a-leafs, you will need to do the new shocks at the same time. If a shop wants to charge you $70 for that- RUN and take your $$ elsewhere. There are 2 bolts for those things and would take 5 min each!!!! I did my leafs with the help of a friend and it took 4 hours, but it was a bit of a gruel and you need to do some grinding to get the OEM alignment bindings off.
The Doetsch Tech hydraulics are very nice and were about $100/pr from Downey
The coil over costs are ball park There is a guy at downey who does the installs on the side. Have you talked with them directly?? Might be a bit cheaper to have him do the whole lift for you, but more out of your way.
The guys at Downey are super cool. Their # is (562) 949-9494 Just tell them that you are interested in their coil over lift and the add-a-leafs and they will hook you up. Now if you ask them, they will tell you that they do not do installs, but there is a guy does them on the side. I am trying to remember his name, I want to say Brian, but I am not 100% on this. You may try and PM Redrydr67, he knows and he could also give you some more insight to the downey gear. But I bet if you call them they will tell you as well and probably even give you his #.
Enjoy!!
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I can't locate Redrydr67 on this site. Maybe his handle changed.
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Originally posted by TMS2U The guys at Downey are super cool. Their # is (562) 949-9494 Just tell them that you are interested in their coil over lift and the add-a-leafs and they will hook you up. Now if you ask them, they will tell you that they do not do installs, but there is a guy does them on the side. I am trying to remember his name, I want to say Brian, but I am not 100% on this. You may try and PM Redrydr67, he knows and he could also give you some more insight to the downey gear. But I bet if you call them they will tell you as well and probably even give you his #.
Living near the coast might tempt me to look as some stainless system, like Borela. Kinda expensive! On the other hand, I bet my aluminized steel system would last five or six years, even near the coast, unless you're running through the surf on the beach. I wouldn't own anything that long, but if you want to keep it forever, stainless exhaust might be worth the extra expense.
If you put on headers and duals, you might consider adding a K & N intake system. Though I haven't seen any dyno studies to confirm it, logic tells you there's little benefit to opening up the exhaust if you don't do some similar work on the intake side.
Back when I was a kid, you could get big horsepower gains with headers, duals, a better air cleaner and a Holly carb. Today, the automotive engineers have learned their lessons. Though advertizing hype from after market folks promises big gains, I think actual tests would demonstrate you really don't get much over 10% gain. You can feel that much, but to me it ain't worth the extra cost. The Tundra V-8 has more torque, stock, than any comparable-sized stock V-8 in any other pickup you can buy.
__________________ Larry Lawton
Retired in Wyoming
It's kind of a bummer living at the beach in this respect because everything inside and outside of my pad that is metal rusts. Even my Denon Receiver and my high grade stainless steel diving knife if you can believe that! My last PC stopped working and when I opened it up, the rust was clearly the kiss of death.
I wouldn't mind 10% gain. I mistakenly bought a reinforced shell that weighs a ton (they use a forklift to put it on) and that has reduced my Tundy's kick especially going up a short grade on the way to work.
So given that I should see if there is a "Exhaust Systems for Dummies" book, can you suggest any specific mufflers/headers? Are there any other considerations with respect to the type of material used (e.g. stainless steel prevents rust buildup)? What's this about ceramic this or that?
Also, I am a little afraid to ask this but what's a dual? Back in my biking days, it was easier because we all just bought a header and that was the end of the story.
- Larry Longboarder
PS: Good first name Larry!
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Originally posted by Larry Lawton Longboarder:
Living near the coast might tempt me to look as some stainless system, like Borela. Kinda expensive! On the other hand, I bet my aluminized steel system would last five or six years, even near the coast, unless you're running through the surf on the beach. I wouldn't own anything that long, but if you want to keep it forever, stainless exhaust might be worth the extra expense.
If you put on headers and duals, you might consider adding a K & N intake system. Though I haven't seen any dyno studies to confirm it, logic tells you there's little benefit to opening up the exhaust if you don't do some similar work on the intake side.
Back when I was a kid, you could get big horsepower gains with headers, duals, a better air cleaner and a Holly carb. Today, the automotive engineers have learned their lessons. Though advertizing hype from after market folks promises big gains, I think actual tests would demonstrate you really don't get much over 10% gain. You can feel that much, but to me it ain't worth the extra cost. The Tundra V-8 has more torque, stock, than any comparable-sized stock V-8 in any other pickup you can buy.
Lift kit and Header/Muffler prices?
Larry Lawton
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