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This is a discussion thread titled "Timing belt replacement", within the Engine & Drivetrain forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
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while replacing the timing belt, replace the water pump, it drives off of the timing belt, you may also want to repalce the starter it is under the intake manifold.
Price seems a lil high for just the T-belt what else does the svc include?
Should cover the belt, coolant, necessary gaskets/o-rings. Maybe get them to throw in a serp belt to sweeten the deal.
$420 is about right...do one yourself (correctly) and that price is a bargain. The belt and the water pump is good for 120K no sweat. The previous post about changing the starter too, is absurd. You're no where near the starter during the belt change.Those starters are good forever (except for the starter contacts if you short hop alot). Only replace with genuine Toyota starter. Ask Lexus LS400 people about all of this.....they've been driving the same motor, for all intents, for years.
I got my questions answered about When and How Much to get the timing belt changed. Anything under $500. is a deal compared to US autos! I've never paid less than $600. at a dealer to have one changed (again, Dodge & GM experience here).
90K seems a bit early though - I thought it was more like 100-120K. But I'll go 90 if that's what the recommended is. Sure don't want to take chances there!
One question though - does the Super Charger affect this in any way?
I just shopped for my replacement and was told by Toyota to replace the water pump too along with the timing belt and seals=$950. I think that the price is complete BS, but how do you argue over an expense like this. It must be done and they have me over a barrel for the amount. My truck had 100K on it and I am already starting to butt pucker every time I stab the gas. Had a belt go on an old civic and the car was useless.. I am hoping to get to 110K, but I think I can get a better price on the labor if I go to an autorized Toyota service center that's not a dealer....
Yeah, he said that they would replace the serpentine belt and since I just did mine that'll save me an add'l $25!! Woohoo, we're well on the way. Have you had this service done? Any suggestions on other 'hidden charges' that could be shaved?
i havent yet, but after seeing other people's quotes around 500 bucks, i'd be looking for 400$ worth of "5 point safety check" and "rotate tires" kind of stuff.
Sean, i'm getting a new belt with my Supercharger....is this the same belt?
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Originally Posted by DevinSixtySeven
i havent yet, but after seeing other people's quotes around 500 bucks, i'd be looking for 400$ worth of "5 point safety check" and "rotate tires" kind of stuff.
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I just shopped for my replacement and was told by Toyota to replace the water pump too along with the timing belt and seals=$950. I think that the price is complete BS, but how do you argue over an expense like this. It must be done and they have me over a barrel for the amount. My truck had 100K on it and I am already starting to butt pucker every time I stab the gas. Had a belt go on an old civic and the car was useless.. I am hoping to get to 110K, but I think I can get a better price on the labor if I go to an autorized Toyota service center that's not a dealer....
Replacing the water pump at the same time would save money on the pump labor...that's true. If it was a Honda I'd do it. I've seen many 150k Tundra's and not many bad pumps. $900 for the whole shot seems a little steep. I don't know the price of the pump alone but the additional labor shouldn't be but $120 or so even at dealers hourly rate. Don't use anything but OEM Toyota parts though. A 100k old Toyota pump is better than any new aftermarket one. As far as that goes....you'd be a fool to try and save money with any aftermarket hard part on your truck. Penny wise/dollar foolish. The t-belts are good to 120k all day long....130-140 if most of the miles are steady state highway. Dry rot cracks worry me more than anything. If the truck is early model...4 years old or so...age is the real enemy, not miles. The timing belt doesn't know the supercharger is there but considering how the truck gets flogged with a blower, I'd probably play it safe and not stretch the mileage too far. If you love your truck, take care of it.
Yeah, he said that they would replace the serpentine belt and since I just did mine that'll save me an add'l $25!! Woohoo, we're well on the way. Have you had this service done? Any suggestions on other 'hidden charges' that could be shaved?
Yes...check the "labor" charges for things like serpentine belt. Many dealers will charge the labor even though they allready have it off....and they should NOT! They likely will want to replace all fluids, which will likely be 2-3x what you could do it for. Plus plugs...they charge labor....anything you could easily do yourself question and eliminate. Likely you'll cut the bill in half.
I looked at Chilton's and I am seriously thinking of doing this myself. I mean it looks like a several hours to remove the radiator, serp. belt, accessory system, cover, and pump but once you get the timing belt cover off and the water pump out, it looks like just some seals and RTV. If I matchmark the crank and cam so that there is no movement--is it unreasonable to assume that one could do it themselves? At worst, if I get in over my head I tow it to Toyota and save myself some bucks on the removal of everything forward of the engine.
My thought is: Cranks are pretty hard to move by hand--but what about the camshafts??? I ain't no mechanic but have done engine replacements with buddies on older Toyota pickups (NEVER even touched the guts yet-heads, valves, pistons, crank, etc) and apart from turning tons of bolts and minor issues...the work *seems* straighforward enough...PLEASE, someone chime in and give me your thoughts...I would gladly take photos and post the procedure, but need someone with some experience who can tell me if this is HUGE mistake or not...
I've done a few belt changes before. Your assessment is correct, the crank will not move readily. The cams however are a different story...as the cam lobes are "loaded" under valve spring pressure and will move readily when removing the belt. Typically the manufacturer has available a "cam clamp" which you tighten up on the cam and it rests against something solid to keep it from moving while you remove/install the belt. I have made several myself for different applications, (such as the F-150 I had), but I'm not sure how the Tundra is situated in order to recommend how you would construct one....or if it is even possible to fab your own. I would check with Toyota service to see if such a tool is available. Perhaps Snap-On or Matco may have one ???
I think the only risk is the cam movement...and that will most likely be the most difficult aspect of the job. If it were me, (and it will be in a couple more years), I would do it myself.
GOOD LUCK ! ! Let us know how it goes if you try it.
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